Return-Path: Received: (qmail 32658 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2003 13:16:10 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 13:16:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 4209 invoked by uid 10001); 1 Feb 2003 13:16:10 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2003 13:16:10 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18exUR-0001gv-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:15:23 +0000 Received: from [200.196.255.166] (helo=smtp02.ositeisp.com.br) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18exUQ-0001gk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:15:22 +0000 Received: from local ([200.196.251.137]) (AUTH: LOGIN mramos@osite.com.br) by smtp02.ositeisp.com.br with esmtp; Sat, 01 Feb 2003 11:14:13 -0300 Message-ID: <005901c2c9f4$0ca5f080$50aec5c8@local> From: "PY3CRX PY2PLL" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20030131161755.00aef0b8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 11:15:46 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by courier 0.39.3.20021007 Subject: LF: Re: RX loop designs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.3 required=6.0tests=QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi James ... I would like a copy. Actually I´m building a 1 meter diameter mag loop, 100 meter of wire on it, but using the theory adopted by Mr Marco Bruno (www.vlf.it) ... where a loop drives a current amp which have 0 ohm of input Z ... I got two AD797AN ICs ... vy low noise and seems that this design is "flat" from some hertz (150Hz I guess) untill 300 or 400KHz ... 73 Marcus, PY3CRX/PY2PLL GG66rf http://py.qsl.br Active from "DC" to 24GHz ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: 01 February, 2003 09:32 Subject: LF: RX loop designs > Dear LF Group, > > With the recent chatter about LF loops, I finally got round to writing up 3 > of my receiving loop designs, which I have been using for the last year or > so. They seem to be significantly different to the designs other people > have come up with, and work well, so could be of interest. > > The usual problem with a tuned loop is that the bandwidth is very narrow, > so remote tuning is needed. Resistively loading the loop increases BW, but > reduces the loop output and SNR, so a bigger loop is needed, and also > out-of-band selectivity is reduced. My idea was to add an additional tuned > circuit coupled to the loop to produce a bandpass response, which can be > designed to give a flat-topped or slightly double-peaked response covering > the whole 136kHz band without re-tuning. This has turned out to work well, > and the article describes one 1m^2 loop with a bandwidth of about 4kHz, and > a 2m x 2m loop using a single turn of tubing with a bandwidth of about > 18kHz. With the simple pre-amp also described, the noise floor of both > these antennas is well below the band noise even on a quiet day. > > The article also includes a wideband loop based on a low-pass rather than > bandpass design, which covers 10kHz -200kHz, also a single turn 2m x 2m > loop. This is slightly less sensitive than the bandpass designs, but more > than adequate for general use over the LF/VLF range. The relationship > between field strength and loop output for this antenna is predictable, so > it can also be used for field strength measurement. > > The article I have written is 5 pages, with several diagrams, and is a .pdf > file of about 340kB. It is too big for the reflector, but if you are > interested, let me know, and I will e-mail it to you as an attachment. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > >