Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25013 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 16:46:13 -0000 Received: from netmail02.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.221) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 16:46:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 26404 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2003 16:46:02 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail02.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Jan 2003 16:46:02 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18Zw2g-0005LK-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:41:58 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from [24.153.64.2] (helo=smtp.comcast.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Zw2g-0005LB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:41:58 +0000 Received: from Charlie_Drake (pcp01445904pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net [68.83.65.211]) by mtaout01.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.07 (built Nov 25 2002)) with SMTP id <0H8X0057I4ZEUB@mtaout01.icomcast.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:40:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 11:40:26 -0500 From: "Steve Dove" In-reply-to: <000401c2bebe$12363000$d41686d4@erica> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <74S2VLF93VUXSTQGSM09USTSNL3YJF.3e29837a@Charlie_Drake> Organization: d s p MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Opera 6.04 build 1135 X-Priority: 3 Subject: Re: LF: LF T/A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 required=6.0tests=INVALID_MSGID,IN_REP_TO,NOSPAM_INC,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Greetings, fellow static-heads, Having just returned from a week long business trip to find that w3eee.com was still working(!) I'm also gratified to see that it is of use . . . also amazed by the great propagation it captured last night. (1) Daytime noises As Peter queried and Alan correctly answered, the daytime noises evident are switch-mode 'squirglies' and the odd electric drill from construction down the road. When I'm here (w3eee.com is in my downstairs office) I'm able to 'police' the house for known grotties that have otherwise not been fixed, 'retired' or 'broken'. These are the ones that require 'social engineering' to keep under control. There is a bad one from an adjacent property (300' away) about which nothing much can be done. That said, it is fairly clear if the 'squirglies' are causing false readings; that is the purpose of the 'control' traces from adjacent frequencies. And since the 'squirglies' really only affect measurements when no-one in their right mind is going to be attempting transatlantic QSOs, for the immediate purpose they really don't matter; obviously for the science aspect, they have to go. This is going to involve a new antenna, further away from houses - since we're still armpit deep in snow, and the weather-man's favourite utterance of late is "single digits!" (of degrees Fahrenheit) this isn't going to happen any time soon . . . Incidentally, the signal strength 'bloom' centered around 1400z on today's graph is real, and not a 'squirgly' - note that the noises are well below the DCF trace. (2) Data clipping As Alan has noted, some traces show suspicious signs of the measuring system clipping, or 'topping out'; this can be seen at about the -8dB level on the 'Scorcher!' trace, and at 0700z+ on the present trace. The actual data figures behind these traces still show signs of wiggle, so, I'm really not sure. However, since there is 'plenty of room' at the low-level end of the graph, at the next reasonable opportunity (i.e. when the 'puter falls over next) I might spend the time to recalibrate it down 10dB, as per Alan's suggestion. Don't worry. I'll let you know if it happens, just so that people won't assume the band's over for the season! Cheers, Steve