Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20683 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 13:14:54 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 13:14:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 15113 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 13:14:16 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 13:14:15 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18ZWJA-00009F-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:13:16 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from [194.25.134.83] (helo=mailout07.sul.t-online.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZWJA-000096-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 13:13:16 +0000 Received: from fwd02.sul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18ZWJ7-0001lh-05; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:13:13 +0100 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (087321565-0001@[217.2.66.11]) by fwd02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 18ZWIt-0lPprtC; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 14:12:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Hans-Joachim Brandt" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 4.108 Date: 17 Jan 2003 12:35 GMT Message-ID: <18ZWIt-0lPprtC@fwd02.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 087321565-0001@t-dialin.net Subject: Re: LF: Notch for DCF39 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=6.0tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUPERLONG_LINE,USER_AGENT_TONLINEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi all, as I had to design a group-delay controlled band-pass filter once, needing two pole circuits at both sides of the pass-band I have also been designing such a filter for the amateur LF band using the ARRL Radio Designer, but have not completed it, because I am living in the southeast of Germany (JN68GN) and do not need it. But concerning the LF activity in eastern Germany I have also thought that DCF39 at Burg, close to Magdeburg, would severely hinder such activity. When DL2HRE, Edgar, located at Bernburg, half way between Magdeburg and Halle, appeared on the LF band, I have asked him how he has managed to listen on LF. He is using an rx input filter consisting of seven resonant circuits employing pot cores, capacitively top-coupled, centered at 136.4 kHz. I also feel that this should not be the optimum solution; a filter with poles (one for DCF39 and perhaps another for SVX) would be better, but so far Edgar does not seem to look for a filter employing poles. Anyway, his rx sensitivity on the LF band using his 250 meters long antenna seems to be very good. He has become the utmost station in the northeast of Germany which I can contact reliably on LF in normal CW. So far I have not found a comparable station in the northwest of Germany. DL2HRE has also told me of another east German LF station at Plauen (the callsign I have not noted, sri) but so far I have not heard it. DL2HRE has no internet connection. 73 Ha-Jo, DJ1ZB "Alan Melia" schrieb: >Hi all, a belated Chrismas present to the Group. As a result of a discussion >with Hugh M0WYE, I calculated, and simulated a Bridged-T Notch Filter for >136kHz, which should reduce the level of DCF39 by about 30dB which only >giving about 2 or 3 dB loss at the top of the band. Hugh has made up the >filter and from workbench tests it seems promising. It occurs to me that >this may be of interest to those living closer to Burg that we do. > >Details on http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/BR-t-Notch.htm > >We would be interested if anyone finds it useful. > >Cheers de Alan G3NYK >alan.melia@btinternet.com >http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk > > > >