Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14390 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 23:31:40 -0000 Received: from netmail01.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.219) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 23:31:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 3589 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2003 23:31:29 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by netmail01.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Jan 2003 23:31:28 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.12) id 18Zfx7-0002WH-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:31:09 +0000 Received: from [212.1.130.1] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18Zfx6-0002W8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:31:08 +0000 Received: from [80.40.18.59] (helo=hughspc) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 18Zfje-0005DX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:17:14 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c2be80$6d832dc0$3b122850@hughspc> From: "Hugh" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001c2be37$c3d39fa0$6507a8c0@Main> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:28:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: More about the Notch Filter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=6.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.43 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Hi Alan, LF Group, I found out why the pot setting was so critical. I measued the value for best notch and it was about 330 ohms ! I have replaced the 25k with a 1k pot and it is much better behaved. I have also added a dual gang 500pF airspaced tuning cap in parallel with the existing caps (22n and 4n7) and that now brings it down onto DCF39 nicely. I set up the antenna this afternoon and have been experimenting with "real" signals. I can now reduce DCF39 from -54dBm without the filter in circuit, to -112 dBm with the filter. When a burst of modulation occurs the level rises by 10dB suggesting the frequency shift is fairly small compared to the size of the notch. I have continued to use the filter with the 12 : 1 toroidal transformer to achieve matching, so I still have an overall reduction in signal from the antenna due to the turns ratio. I generated some signals that could be picked up by the antenna, and found that a signal at 136.562 kHz is reduced by 23dB and one at 137.700 kHz is reduced by 27dB. But the main thing is the filter does the job. I can set the SLM to 3.1kHz band width and not be totally swamped by DCF39. So now I can leave Argo running and see what is happening right across the band. For example I was able to receive DJ9IE sending ordinary morse on 136.590 by spotting the line appearing on the screen. And someone's sending some QRSS40 (?) on 137.800 and just now (23:15)I've got some more long dots or dashes around 137.800. This is good. Before I had to tune around the band with the 80Hz filter to find things and probably missed lots of stuff. However getting rid of the worst interfering station does mean that one can hear other flaws in the set-up. I can now hear a broadcast station very faintly, and I guess it must be resonsible for some patterning on the screen. 73 Hugh M0WYE