Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26004 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2002 21:33:11 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Dec 2002 21:33:11 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 11693 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2002 21:33:11 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Dec 2002 21:33:11 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.10) id 18O2qr-0007ui-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:32:37 +0000 Received: from [152.163.225.98] (helo=imo-r02.mx.aol.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18O2qq-0007uZ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:32:36 +0000 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v34.13.) id l.16e.18a89c06 (3964) for ; Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:32:02 -0500 (EST) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <16e.18a89c06.2b2fa051@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:32:01 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Subject: Re: LF: EARTH RESISTANCE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,NO_REAL_NAME,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.42 Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group In a message dated 12/16/02 1:30:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, g3kev.ham@virgin.net writes: << Dick has indicated that Earth Resistance gets higher when the ground is wet. That seems strange and contrary to accepted theory. The ideal ground plane for a vertical is on a wet plain or preferably positioned in the middle of a lake or in the middle of the Ocean. Have I missed something and read his observation incorrectly. >> I think both points of view are correct, but under differing prevailing conditions. The type of soil may make a great difference in whether moisture enhances or degrades radiated signal. Where I live now, the soil seems to experience increased dielectric loss when wet; whereas, in other locations, I found the opposite to be true. Because of the greater skin depth of the earth as the wavelength increases, I would expect the effect to be more pronounced at LF than MF or HF. Dick's data may be partial supporting evidence that this is so; in which case, it's even possible that some soils will be better at MF when wet, and better at LF when dry. Sounds like a fertile field for investigation (no pun intended). As for bodies of water, a freshwater lake turns out not to be as good a location for a ground plane as I once thought. I have tried this approach at LF and MF at a few very different locations, always with less signal than expected. Seawater is quite a different matter! At MF, especially, it does truly wonderful things for signals. Along with our fleet of VHF FM public broadcast stations, I oversee one small mediumwave station on the Georgia coast which is less than listenable more than about 20 miles inland. However, it has a coastal coverage range from St Augustine, Florida, to Hilton Head, South Carolina. (In fact, do we have any readers in Bermuda? If so, I invite you to give a listen on 1190kHz.) John