Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3419 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2002 21:38:43 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 17 Dec 2002 21:38:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 1764 invoked from network); 17 Dec 2002 21:38:42 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Dec 2002 21:38:42 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.10) id 18OPLq-0005cp-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:34:06 +0000 Received: from [62.253.164.43] (helo=mta3-svc.business.ntl.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18OPLl-0005cg-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:34:01 +0000 Received: from ian ([62.252.209.84]) by mta3-svc.business.ntl.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20021217213400.LZBG15439.mta3-svc.business.ntl.com@ian> for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:34:00 +0000 Message-ID: <000001c2a614$1eccf320$54d1fc3e@ian> From: "Ian Kyle" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003501c2a54e$f83bdca0$d77c7ad5@main> <000401c2a557$a3107de0$12ce28c3@erica> Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:50:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Earth resistance Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0tests=REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.42 Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Peter, as I recall, didn't W1BB go through puzzlement like yours during his extensive top band activities about forty to fifty years ago (that's my generation gap showing again) operating from the middle of a salt marsh? Bound to be something in the ARRL archives about it tho' if I remember aright SWM also carried reports. At least you have a respectable amount of antenna current. My modest 1.5A into 3 wire 27ft vertical with about 630ft of criss-cross top loading seems to vary with the number of starlings and goldfinches using it as a meeting place. As I am on boulder clay on top of limestone, even getting earth rods to go in, let alone make measurements, is difficult enough. However when building on the 'west wing' last year I got the builder (GI0VLE) to put down a 5 wire fan of heavy earth cable under the founds and have that plus the four 4ft spikes of the old station earth tied to the ( all copper)water and heating pipework in the bungalow, which is in turn connected via copper to the iron watermain in the street, and for good measure to redundant power and telephone earths from who knows where.. As a station earth it seems to make little odds on HF but it don't half help the LF. 73, Ian