Return-Path: Received: (qmail 31872 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2002 14:17:20 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 8 Nov 2002 14:17:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 2010 invoked by uid 10001); 8 Nov 2002 13:16:40 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Nov 2002 13:16:40 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.10) id 18A8zH-0004AS-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 13:15:51 +0000 Received: from [212.159.14.225] (helo=murphys.services.quay.plus.net) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 18A8zG-0004AI-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 13:15:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 8264 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2002 13:15:15 -0000 Received: from modem-118-52-60-62.vip.uk.com (HELO hugh) (62.60.52.118) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Nov 2002 13:15:15 -0000 Message-ID: <003b01c28728$72240500$0504210a@c.scope> From: "g6tmk" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <7D653C9C42F5D411A27C00508BF8803DCB9CBB@mail.dstl.gov.uk> <000701c28713$e15270c0$0504210a@c.scope> <005201c28723$9fbd8cc0$c12565d5@oemcomputer> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 13:11:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: To Ponder over the weekend Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.1 required=5.0tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,NO_COST,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_OEversion=2.42 Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group You can measure viscosity by measuing the time taken for oil to drain through a tube ( at least I've always assumed that's why heating oil is graded in "seconds") I wonder if you could measure capacitance (or charge) be measuing the time taken for oil to drain out from between the vanes of a capacitor ? There are probably less messy ways of measuring it :-) Hugh PS Yes, we had a KiloVolt meter like a free-turning variable capacitor in the school physics lab I remember ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johan Bodin" To: Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:36 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: To Ponder over the weekend g6tmk wrote: > My guess is the 10uF capacitor becomes 1uF and the voltage rises to 100V. That's my guess too, but... W [stored energy] = V^2*C / 2: With oil: V=10V, C=10u => W = 10*10*10u / 2 = 500 uJ Without oil: V=100V, C=1u => W = 100*100*1u / 2 = 5000 uJ Assuming that no charge goes away with the oil, the stored energy will increase by a factor of ten. Hmm... Force * distance = energy. When gravity pulls the oil away from the plates, the oil has to fight against an electrostatic force thereby injecting energy into the capacitor, I guess... Will a charged air variable capacitor try to turn itself towards the maximum setting? :-) 73 Johan SM6LKM