Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11305 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 16:50:58 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 7 Oct 2002 16:50:58 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: (qmail 5173 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 16:50:21 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Oct 2002 16:50:21 -0000 X-SQ: A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.10) id 17yb4N-0001Ow-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2002 17:49:23 +0100 Received: from [212.125.75.12] (helo=mail4.messagelabs.com) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 4.10) id 17yb4M-0001On-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2002 17:49:22 +0100 X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 11443 invoked from network); 7 Oct 2002 16:42:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ukfw1.ge.boc.com) (193.131.2.157) by server-20.tower-4.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 7 Oct 2002 16:42:41 -0000 Received: from z-160-100-160-136.est.ibm.com ([160.100.160.136]) by ukfw1.ge.boc.com; Mon, 07 Oct 2002 17:28:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from exc_wil04.edwards.boc.com ([162.118.144.226]) by exc_cra03.edwards.boc.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id TP3FGP8T; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 17:10:07 +0100 Received: by EXC_WIL04 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:06:56 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Ashlock,William" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 12:06:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Subject: LF: RE: Re:RE: LF Revival Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0tests=EXCHANGE_SERVER,INVALID_MSGID,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.42 Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Jim M, >I remain to be convinced about the benefits of loop TX antennas. >If you have the choice of a tuned wire 15m long in total , or a 15m by 15m loop, it is not >surprising that the latter is a better bet - it is a much bigger antenna, after all. Actually under 'ideal' site conditions such as an open field, free from the effect of trees, and where a good ground system can be installed, the top loaded vertical with similar overall dimensions beats the loop for radiation efficiency by 6db on average. Typical residential sites, however, are another story. In my home situation the same 6db favors the loop over the vertical - even for a #12ga loop wire. Additionally, I have found the loop is whole lot more rugged when it comes to extremes in wind, rain, ice and snow. What makes 'looping' even more fun, at least for me, is that this success stands in the face of so much negative text written about the TX loop. Renowned authors of antenna textbooks often state that the small loop (I.E.: <<1WL) is of little value for transmitting. Bill A _____________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the WorldCom Internet Managed Scanning Service - powered by MessageLabs. For further information visit http://www.worldcom.com