Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11465 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2002 05:56:45 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Sep 2002 05:56:45 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 10906 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Sep 2002 07:00:58 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Sep 2002 07:00:58 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.10) id 17ruIV-0005AU-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 06:56:19 +0100 Received: from [212.164.44.2] (helo=astral.omskcity.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17ruIU-0005AK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 06:56:18 +0100 Received: from fitec.omskcity.com (mu06.dialup2.infomsk.ru [212.164.44.118]) by astral.omskcity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA3d8965be2777 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2002 12:50:54 +0700 (OSS) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 13:32:11 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-reply-to: <003201c24cb7$6c360180$436152d5@it> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: IK2DED beacon and E field probe. Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=5.0tests=IN_REP_TO,DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12version=2.31 Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Hi, Giulio and Group On Mon, 26 Aug 2002, Giulio Scaroni wrote: > I have made some comparisasion tests on my RX antennas at the beacon lower >power level, the winner is again the AMRAD E field antenna, with many db >of better S/N then my ferrite antenna, so this week end i'll try to do a >separate ground connection for the antenna, for see if there will be some >improvement in S/N. Some years ago I had estimate sensetivity of ferrite antenna theoreticaly. I found it is not so good. For good sensetivity one should use ferrite rod about 5 or 10 cantimiters in diameter (and about 1 meter long)! Simple loop about 1 - 2 meter in diameter is much better! For E-field antenna it can be good to use few radials, not ground. And use ferrite transformer to avoid noise transfer from external surface of coax to antenna. Some my experiments show this. > About Vlad is good results that him listen my beacon, i think that the my >ERP is not so high, only 40 W with 60 meters quasi vertical 2 mm CU >wire,no long radials, and poor earth location on a rocky mountain at 1000 >meters on sea level, so if him listem me in aural CW, in QRSS may listen all >Europe, from CT to LY, good news. > May someone calculate the beacon ERP??? For ERP calculation antenna curent is needed. I think Your curent is about 1 A (if loss resistanse is 40 Ohm). And if there is no top load in this case radiated power is about 0.3 W. 73 de RA9MB/Alex http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb