Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9892 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2002 07:37:10 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 26 Sep 2002 07:37:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 23209 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2002 07:37:19 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: High Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Sep 2002 07:37:19 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.10) id 17uTC5-0007PR-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 08:36:17 +0100 Received: from [212.1.130.1] (helo=smtp-1.visp.telinco.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17uTC5-0007PH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 08:36:17 +0100 Received: from [212.1.140.173] (helo=standalone) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 17uTA3-0002nb-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 08:34:11 +0100 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 08:36:06 +0100 Message-ID: <01C26537.C1466D20.g4jnt@thersgb.net> From: "Andy talbot" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 08:36:04 +0100 Importance: high X-Priority: 1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: LF: RE: Narrow CW filter using 32kHz clock crstals? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0tests=SUBJ_ENDS_IN_Q_MARK,X_PRIORITY_HIGHversion=2.31 Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Its was I ........... 1) Take a handful of watch crystals, from the same batch (buy 10 or 20 from Farnel / Maplin ??) 2) Connect 5 in series to form the top elements of a ladder filter; you now have 6 connection nodes, taking 1 as the input, 6 the output 3) Connect shunt capacitors to ground as follows, from node 1 47pF, nodes 2,3,4 and 5 82pF, and node 6 47pF. This gives a ladder filter with a characteristic impedance of around 50kHz, a 3dB bandwidth in the region of 2.2Hz and 10 dB loss. Centre frequency is 32765.5Hz - the series resonance of a 32768Hz device cut for || resonance. The loss is high enough to smooth out significant ripples so I made no serious attempt to get a decent response shape - it was rounded - but with a lot of patience it could be improved no doubt. 4) All attempts to use the crystals in thier parallel mode, with top coupling capacitors lead to very high losses that would have needed a characteristic impedance of meg-ohms to get operational. I didn't think much of the xtal filter idea idea and abandoned it for a DSP solution using the 56002EVM. Andy G4JNT -----Original Message----- From: Tracey Gardner [SMTP:tracey.gardner@ntlworld.com] Sent: 2002/09/25 18:49 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Narrow CW filter using 32kHz clock crstals? << File: ATT00001.txt; charset = Windows-1252 >>