Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15334 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 19:42:14 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 19:42:14 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 10877 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2002 19:42:23 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Aug 2002 19:42:23 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17ejGR-0002ZO-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:31:43 +0100 Received: from imo-r02.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.98]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17ejGQ-0002ZJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:31:42 +0100 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-r02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id l.e5.1c435e1c (25308) for ; Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:39:00 -0400 (EDT) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:38:59 EDT Subject: Re: LF: Oscillator Stabilty for QRSS? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: In a message dated 8/13/02 2:54:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jsm@gulfislands.com writes: << I am worried about drift but also thinking that they may be stable enough if kept in the 1 - 2MHz region. As well, they should (if identical) drift by the same amount and thus be self-correcting? Is this a reasonable avenue to pursue or should I just break down and buy a couple of xtals?? >> I'd go for the crystals, Steve. The stability of even relatively inexpensive crystals in the HF range is much better than you can expect from VFOs. Your oscillators will drift by the same percentage amount, not the same absolute frequency amount. Remember those halcyon days of algebra class, and working with the good old associative property? Lets imagine two 2MHz oscillators each maintaining a rather good 50ppm over the temperature range of the room in which they are kept, and if they do track comparably, f1 will have a potential drift of 50ppm of 2MHz and f2 will have a potential drift of 50ppm of 2.136MHz (that is, a few more Hertz of drift than the f1 oscillator)--which, when one takes the difference of f1 and f2, is the same error as 50ppm of (f2-f1). Thus, the output has the same percentage tolerance as the original oscillators. Unless they were unusually well stabilized, VFOs would not be good for more than the shortest QRSS dot times, and probably not at all suited for a JASON transmitter. 73, John