Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5772 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2002 07:00:40 -0000 Received: from warrior.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.227) by mailstore with SMTP; 16 Aug 2002 07:00:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 27248 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2002 07:00:11 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Aug 2002 07:00:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17fcea-00016a-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 09:40:20 +0100 Received: from smtp-1.visp.telinco.net ([212.1.130.1]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17fceZ-00016V-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 09:40:19 +0100 Received: from [212.1.156.117] (helo=pcuser) by smtp-1.visp.telinco.net with smtp (Exim 3.32 #1) id 17fao6-0006fW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Aug 2002 07:42:02 +0100 Message-ID: <000501c244f0$cf36a560$2e734ac3@pcuser> From: "Hugh Burnham" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000101c240bb$f5237980$2c0e073e@main> <012a01c24224$5e5cef80$9c2cfd3e@default> Subject: LF: Re: Low Energy Light Bulbs Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 22:42:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi Tracey I have a house full of Low Energy lamps, of various manufacture, Ring, GEC, Osram, Philips, Ikea, and not noticed any problems with noise on VLF. Where the ballast is built into the lamp, there is very little lead length to radiate - the situation might be different if the lamps are mounted remotely from an electronic ballast. Many homes and businesses use Low Voltage lighting - 12 V halogen lamps powered by transformers. Where these systems employ "electronic" transformers, the potential for interferance is very great, as the currents in the cables are quite high. I looked at a Ring DET-65 dimmable Electronic Transformer a few years ago, and found it produced a 23kHz square wave, with a 100Hz envelope. On a spectrum Analyser this produced an impressive comb of frequencies going upwards from 23kHz. The circuit was a two transistor power oscillator, and the frequency drifted all over the place with load and temperature. The output waveform had a peak voltage of 18V and would drive up to 50W of 12V lamps - so quite a bit of chopped current could flow. It seemed to me that the wiring between the transformer and the lightfittings would radiate horribly. The length of the cable between transformer and lamps would depend on the building and who wired them up ! I don't want them anywhere near my house, especially when you can buy toroidal transformers that do the same job at 50Hz ! 73 Hugh Burnham M0WYE