Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3895 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2002 18:41:44 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 23 Jul 2002 18:41:44 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 29765 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2002 18:40:38 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jul 2002 18:40:38 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17X4Wv-0005ct-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 19:37:05 +0100 Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.8]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17X4Wu-0005cm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 19:37:04 +0100 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.21.) id l.19d.5b8364f (4230) for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:36:29 -0400 (EDT) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <19d.5b8364f.2a6efc2c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:36:28 EDT Subject: Re: LF: Sound Cards To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows XP DE sub 50 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Sandy,

from own experiments with several soundcards I found only marginal differences as long as simple waterfall display is concerned - so I confirm Alberto's comments.
   (Instead of a bit more dynamic range, I would love to have
    a soundcard with two DC-coupled inputs,
    for I/Q processing as last stage of a digital receiver
    with simple but good analog frontend).

A problem with audio cards on the mainboard is that they often catch noise from the digital components on the board. This can be very annoying, because sometimes the noise appears like "interesting looking" noise on the waterfall (water on the mills of the anti-soundcard fraction again ;-).
On the other hand, if the soundcard "noise" is mostly random type, it is effectively reduced by the narrow-band gain of the FFT. So, for high frequency resolution, the usable dynamic range for a waterfall display often exceeds 120 dB (more than the dynamic range of a 16 bit ADC !).

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Related topic: I bought some a low-cost PIC with 10-bit ADC (PIC16F870) recently, planning to connect it to the serial interface as replacement for my laptop's audio device (which only has a lousy *mono* MIC input). Has anyone on the group ever tried to use this PIC for weak-signal work and check the ADC's performance, compared to a soundcard ?



Regards,
Wolf  DL4YHF