Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27464 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2002 15:36:51 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 19 Jul 2002 15:36:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 15311 invoked by uid 10001); 19 Jul 2002 15:40:51 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Jul 2002 15:40:51 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17VZkd-0002di-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:33:03 +0100 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17VZkc-0002da-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 16:33:02 +0100 Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 17VZkD-0007gE-0F; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:32:37 +0200 Received: from (0482183881-0001@[62.224.53.26]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 17VZjy-1IGuAqC; Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:32:22 +0200 From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Subject: LF:Re: Loop questions X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:32:22 +0200 Message-ID: <17VZjy-1IGuAqC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0482183881-0001@t-dialin.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Ashlock,William schrieb: > Hello fellow looper! > > Have a few questions on your setup: > > >I have a loop 70m long, 12m high and 2m above ground with two windings, > >fed at the lower E (east) edge. > > >From a Feb 14 message your said you were planning a 3mm Litz loop. Does the > above a loop have this Litz wire? Also, I am interested in the AC loss > resistance you are measuring. > > I have run tests a number of loops at 185kHz with 2 to 4 turns and find the > far field radiation is less than when I parallel the same strands together. > The sensitivity to the wind is also less when the strands are in parallel. > Currently my loop is a 4-wire cable with 3mm Litz (well, 3mm including the > silk wrap) and am seeing .38 ohms AC on a 15m x 15m size (3m above gnd). > About .22 ohm of this is soil loss. > > Regarding your unusual signal propagation: I have measured the field > strength of my loops out to 125 miles with a portable SVM and mag mount > e-probe antenna at 100s of locations and find no unusual ups or downs in > strength except for the std figure '8' pattern. What's weird is that one of > the guys, 530mi from, here copies my signal (1w into loop) almost 365 days > out of the year, but this is likely the perfect distance for a one hop skip. > > > Regards, > > Bill Ashlock > > > >some weeks ago I made a field strength test L-aerial (17m mast and 340m > longwire 17m to 9m up) contra loop. > Geri/DK8KW measured the strength using his MV62. > the loop is erected N/E. DK8KW is located S from here. > result: no difference btwn the aerials as Geri reported (both 20uV/m). > so can one say the (my) loop polarizes vertical (non directional) > if used as TX-aerial? > > vv. used as RX-antennas loop to L-antenna was -63dBu to -50dBu (indicated by > a > RYCOM-rx) receiving DK8KW. > > receiving Reino/OH1TN (nearly E) RYCOM indicates no > difference btwn the two antennas. > > but Reino does not hear me if I do use the loop as TX-aerial. > with the L-aerial conn to the TX Reino gives me regular RST 569. > > regards > dj8wx/Uwe > Hi Bill, pse see " qsl.net/dj8wx/00014.html " regards Uwe/dj8wx