Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5539 invoked from network); 30 Jul 2002 21:16:24 -0000 Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 30 Jul 2002 21:16:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 3924 invoked by uid 10001); 30 Jul 2002 21:21:12 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jul 2002 21:21:11 -0000 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17Zfzp-0000bx-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 00:01:41 +0100 Received: from tungsten.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.81]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17Zfzn-0000bI-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 00:01:39 +0100 Received: from host213-123-51-53.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.123.51.53] helo=main) by tungsten.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 17ZeFv-0005ps-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:10:11 +0100 Message-ID: <000601c2380d$7739c440$35337bd5@main> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Subject: LF: Droitwich Carrier Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:08:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi all, I was fascinated by Dick's measurements I decided I would swing the radio onto Droitwich and switch through the filters. The measurement was made at 2015z tonight Tuesday.....a science program about George Best's liver!! So the modulation was all male speech. I switched through my filters with the AOR 7030+ on AM with the filters centered on the carrier. The RX had 20dB of front end attenuation and the IF gain was substantially reduced (AGC OFF) to give a three-quater scale reading on the WB mV meter. Measurement was made on the 455kHz IF output with a B & K 2426 wideband millviltmeter in the "Fast" mode (timeconstant around 0.5seconds I believe) I did not have time to lug a scope in from the workshop. Filter band is:- 300Hz 500Hz 2100Hz 3700Hz 6000Hz 9500Hz In all positions the needle deflected downwards by 1.5 to a max of 2.5 dB on speech peaks. I confirm Dick's comments this is definitely "downward Modulation" The result was confirmed using both the Mean and RMS detectors on the B & K.. Next the wider filters were offset to accept just one sideband (much better quality), and the WB mV meter still defected downwards, by about the same amount , maybe a little less. >From my rememberance of a visit to OrfordNess (BBC WS) the 500kW transmitters there have two valves connected by a quarter wave "lumped component" line. One valve handles the "bottom half" of the waveform and the second valve provides the power for the positive modulation peaks only. Maybe they are using an old valve (Bargain from Proops ??) in the second slot or it is not quite adjusted properly. .....or else maybe the compressor is working overtime. The BEEB dont admit to using compression but they jolly well do. I think we have some Stateside lads with BC knowledge who may be able to fill in the gaps. I am probably 200kms South East of Droitwich (I havent checked) That was an interesting ten minutes, I very nearly got interested in listening to the descriptions of the likely state Best's liver !! I think I could use a drink !! Tea of course! Cheers de Alan G3NYK JO02PB alan.melia@btinternet.com