Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2969 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2002 15:29:31 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 8 Jun 2002 15:29:31 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 3961 invoked by uid 10001); 8 Jun 2002 15:33:22 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Jun 2002 15:33:22 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17GgNR-0007af-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 14:35:33 +0100 Received: from mail4.messagelabs.com ([212.125.75.12]) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17GgNQ-0007aO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2002 14:35:32 +0100 X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26402 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2002 12:30:55 -0000 Received: from merimac.us.gases.boc.com (HELO merimac) (204.149.80.4) by server-23.tower-4.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2002 12:30:55 -0000 Received: by exc_wil03.edwards.boc.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 7 Jun 2002 08:54:52 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Ashlock,William" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: PART 2 Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 12:34:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: You can laugh now, but don't say I didn't warn you to stay away from those antenna terminals once we start rocking and rolling over here at 136 - loopwise, that is! ........ because that's the only smoke that will be seen from this 'neck of the woods'. Have a good weekend! Bill PS: I was working in some numbers last night for a "loop antenna designer gone wild" scenario with 100w input. Using the max size for a loop of 1WL at 136k the width could be .65 mi and a height of 100ft. (This is not that outlandish if someone owns a farm and has access to surplus wire) I calculated an ERP near 100 watts, which is dynamite power at LF! At HF of course this is nothing. One can see the reason for the ERP cap, even at 100w input, though most guys at 1KW have a challenge reaching 1W ERP with a typical vertical. Seems like there should be a point where the efficiency drops off, however, when a loop reaches such a wide aspect ratio that it begins looking like a big folded diopole. -----Original Message----- From: hamilton mal [mailto:g3kev.ham@virgin.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:07 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: PART 2 USA on fire. Started by a 47.4 amp spark exciting a LOOP coupled to a FOREST de G3KEV _____________________________________________________________________ This message has been checked for all known viruses by UUNET delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. For further information visit http://www.uk.uu.net/products/security/virus/