Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10807 invoked from network); 14 May 2002 13:54:45 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 14 May 2002 13:54:45 -0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 29550 invoked from network); 14 May 2002 13:54:31 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 May 2002 13:54:31 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 177chH-0000Ig-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 May 2002 14:50:35 +0100 Received: from astral.infomsk.ru ([212.164.44.2] helo=astral.omskcity.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 177chG-0000Ib-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 14 May 2002 14:50:34 +0100 Received: from fitec.omskcity.com (mu06.dialup2.infomsk.ru [212.164.44.118]) by astral.omskcity.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA3ce11551376c for ; Tue, 14 May 2002 20:46:57 +0700 (OSS) Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 21:27:18 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: Ground loss In-reply-to: <20020514125332.E3D16B6DD@xmxpita.excite.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi, John On Tue, 14 May 2002, john sexton wrote: > > Most probably you are considering a flat surface and perhaps an entirely > vertical antenna? This may be all well and good for a commercial > antenna, but amateur antennas like mine are not on a flat surface, are > surrounded by > leaky capacitors like trees, buildings, etc. and are only partly > vertical. Flat surface (no enviroment loss only ground loss) was assumed. 73 de RA9MB/Alex http://www.qsl.net/ra9mb