Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18487 invoked from network); 23 May 2002 10:55:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO marstons.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.223) by exhibition.plus.net with SMTP; 23 May 2002 10:55:59 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 4213 invoked by uid 10001); 23 May 2002 10:59:46 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 May 2002 10:59:46 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17AqCN-0002lA-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:51:59 +0100 Received: from cmailenv3.svr.pol.co.uk ([213.218.77.55]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17AqCM-0002l5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 May 2002 11:51:58 +0100 Received: from [62.21.129.235] (helo=w8k3f0.freeler.nl) by cmailENV3.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17AqCJ-0006ZF-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 May 2002 10:51:55 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020523112845.00a3e130@POP3.freeler.nl> X-Sender: FRE0000086604@POP3.freeler.nl X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 12:52:12 +0200 To: "LF-Group" From: "Dick Rollema" Subject: LF: Selective level meter as receiver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit To All from PA0SE

I endorse what has been said before via the reflector: Selective level meters are excellent for the job they were made for. But as LF receivers they have limitations.

1. Most or all of them have no preselection before the mixer, making them vulnerable to strong out of band signals.  External  input selectivity must be added;  for instance a band pass filter with at least two or three high-Q tuned circuits.
The selectivity of the aerial system, as used for transmission, may turn out to be sufficient,  but only when there are no strong broadcast or other transmitters in the vicinity.
My nearest strong transmitters are at MF at a distance of 40km or so and I find the selectivity of my aerial system sufficient for use with a  Wandel & Goltermann SPM-12 as receiver in the "low distortion" position. In the "low noise" position  the instrument  is hopelessly overloaded before a suitable sensitivity can be selected.

(My SPM-12 is of the type that has the possibility of locking the frequency to a crystal.  Whether the stability is good enough for QRSS I don't know because I only use normal  CW. I also possess the companion PS-12 signal generator that can be used on its own or  driven from the SPM-12. Between them  they make a fine team for measurements)

2. The near selectivity is also limited. Though the pass bands are no doubt  as specified  the filter slopes are  not very steep.
I used the SPM-12 to receive SAQ at 17.2 kHz but  could not get rid of  interference from GBR at 16kHz. I had to insert an outboard audiofilter between the SPM-12 and the headphones to obtain a clear signal.

3. The 25Hz IF filter rings objectionably because it was not designed for pulse shaped signals.

I therefore very much prefer my Teletron LWF45 hybrid LF receiver from the sixties with two valves in the RF part.  It has five tuned circuits before the mixer that track the oscillator and excellent IF filters at 30kHz with 11 tuned circuits and a 6/60dB shape factor of better than two.  As the narrowest filter is  400Hz wide I still use the outboard audiofilter as well. But the large signal behaviour of the RX leaves nothing to be desired. 

The passive outboard audio filter provides choice between 200Hz and 30Hz bandwidth, centred at 1000Hz . The 30Hz filter does not ring because it is a linear phase design.  

73, Dick, PA0SE