Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24141 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2002 18:46:29 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Apr 2002 18:46:29 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 26507 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2002 07:47:37 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Apr 2002 07:47:37 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 172Tox-000255-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:21:15 +0100 Received: from mail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.50]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 172Tow-00024u-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:21:14 +0100 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.12.1/8.12.1) with SMTP id g3U7gbGP082106 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:42:38 +0200 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20020430083716.2e1747a6@pb623250.kuleuven.be> X-Sender: pb623250@pb623250.kuleuven.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:37:16 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: It's up - No it's down or Antenna going on In-reply-to: <6887944.1020097477486.JavaMail.computernetworks@gomailjtp0 5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >My thoughts on the increased resistance are: > >a) the extension is above new ground outside the limits of the earth mat which covers most of my property. > >b) the wood is rather dense and there are many smaller trees filling the spaces, so it is very difficult to maintain the 2 metre separation recommended by Laurie and others, especially when the wind blows! > >Any thoughts? Hello John, The increase in resistance you encountered is probably not a real groundloss but rather a 'thee loss'. If the antenna wire goes high up with little distance to the greenery RF tends to take the trees as 'back-route' rather than the air. But despite the increased loss resistance your signal seems to be 6dB (1 S-point up), and after all that is what counts. I am also suffering from greenery losses, loss resistance varies from 100 Ohm in winter to 140 Ohm is summer. I did a lot of test to work arround this problem and found that the most efficient way to increase the radiation resistance was to put the loading coil (or at least a part of it) high up. The antenna current didn't increase (in fact there was a slight decrease), but the signal went up about 4dB. So always do some on-the-air testing to see if there is an improveemnt, don't just rely on antenna current. 73, Rik ON7YD