Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21534 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2002 23:56:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by exhibition.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2002 23:56:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 8505 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2002 23:55:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Mar 2002 23:55:56 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16mPRn-0002KU-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 01:26:55 +0000 Received: from mail2.mx.voyager.net ([216.93.66.201]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16mPRm-0002KL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 01:26:54 +0000 Received: from k6500 (d23.ias0.mpls.mn.pclink.com [206.11.3.222]) by mail2.mx.voyager.net (8.11.6/8.10.2) with SMTP id g2GNj4R65272 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 18:45:04 -0500 (EST) From: "WE0H" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: TX Loop antenna conductors Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 17:46:35 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: So don't waste your money on #8 wire when the #12 is slightly lossier and a heck of a lot cheaper. Now if you have really big thousand+ strand Litz wire, then go with that. Am I right on this Bill??? Mike>WE0H http://www.geocities.com/we0h/index.html -----Original Message----- From: majordom@post.thorcom.com [mailto:majordom@post.thorcom.com]On Behalf Of Ashlock,William Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 2:33 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: TX Loop antenna conductors All, I get a bit perturbed when I see comparisons of various loop conductors using Rdc values since the 'skin effect' within the conductors causes the Rac to be much higher at the frequencies we use. To prove the point, I calculated the 'skin effect' of two different loop conductors. For #12 (2.05mm) at 185k the Rac/Rdc came out to 3 and for #8 (3.26mm) the Rac/Rdc was 5. Even though the Rdc for #8 is over 2.5 times lower than #12 for the same length, the Rac is only about 35% lower. This amounts to a mere 2.6db signal improvement, assuming no soil loss. With typical soil loss factored in, the signal improvement would be less than 2.2 db. Bill A ********************************************************************* This footnote confirms that this e-mail message has been scanned for the presence of known computer viruses by the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre. However, it is still recommended that you use local virus scanning software to monitor for the presence of viruses. *********************************************************************