Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13123 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2002 16:11:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by exhibition.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Mar 2002 16:11:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 5803 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2002 16:11:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 17 Mar 2002 16:11:32 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16meix-00046x-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:45:39 +0000 Received: from smtp1.snet.net ([204.60.203.69] helo=mta3.snet.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16meiw-00046s-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 17:45:38 +0000 Received: from rescueelect (16.137.252.64.snet.net [64.252.137.16] (may be forged)) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.1/8.12.1/SNET-smtp-1.1/D-1.1/O-1.1) with SMTP id g2HG5joq002458; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:05:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Paul A. Cianciolo" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, "Lowfer@mailman.Qth.Net" Subject: LF: Loop Conductors and proximity effect Rdc Rac Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:15:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello Folks After researching the construction of Litz wire (Thanks John Sexton, Bill A and many others) and speaking to a few wire manufactures, I feel I understand better the complex weaving that is needed to make Rac of this wire close to the Rdc. A loop using single turn of 100 pair telephone cable was in the planning stages. So now after opening up a few types of telephone, 100 pairs/#24 and 25 pairs/24 cat 5 wire, none of these are designed with the same weaving as the litz wire. They are designed for low crosstalk between conductors and immunity to outside interference. So here is the question.... The proximity effect! Where can I acquire data about the distance needed between conductors to avoid this effect? For instance.. I have lots of Belden 9555 which is dual RG59 LAN cable. >From a 1000' roll I could acquire 10 200' runs that could be spaced at some distance and put in parallel. This would bring the Rdc of the loop down to .052 Ohm's. I need to get an idea if the spacing of these 10 conductors would need to be 1", 5" 10" or more to disregard the proximity effect and have a very low Rac. anyone have any thoughts Paulc W1VLF This Email was brought to you by a completely solar powered home network. Cloudbounce Webpage http://www.qsl.net/w1vlf/ GE Electrak E20 and E15 electric tractors Air Rifle Target Shooting Enthusiast