Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26050 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2002 17:52:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by exhibition.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2002 17:52:51 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 22418 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2002 17:52:42 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2002 17:52:42 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16hy60-0006gM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Mar 2002 19:26:04 +0000 Received: from [204.202.140.198] (helo=webmailmta.go.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16hy5y-0006g0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Mar 2002 19:26:03 +0000 Received: from gomailjtp05 ([10.212.0.165]) by mta06.seamail.go.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2001.07.26.11.50.p9) with ESMTP id <0GSG00LHBJKRBH@mta06.seamail.go.com> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 08:38:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 08:38:39 -0800 (PST) From: "John Sexton" Subject: LF: Antenna experiments To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <5193537.1015259920013.JavaMail.computernetworks@gomailjtp05> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: GoMail 3.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi Guys, Having a rather unfavourable situation on the side of a hill topped with 30 metre trees, I have been struggling for some time to improve my antenna. According to the deeds the back garden has a slope of 34 degrees, but it looks more like 45 degrees to me. The garden is 25 metres square and at the end, one is on the same level as the house roof. I have a 7 metre mast at the high end and attach a wire to the house ridge at the other about 8 metres above ground, but because of the slope of the land this wire is on average only about 6 metres above ground and is limited to 20 metres in length because of proximity effects from trees and house. A semi-vertical wire hangs from roughly the middle down to the loading coil some metres away from the house. Recently I bought a Funktechnik 10m fibre glass mast from Sycom, with the idea of propping up the middle, but the mast tapers from 51mm at the bottom to 2mm at the top, and despite all my efforts to provide a frictionless loop at the top to allow the horizontal wire to pass through, the whole thing did a vertical u-turn. Realising this wasn't going to work, I came up with the idea to allow the new mast to stand alongside the semi-horizontal wire at the highest point in the garden consistent with being at least 6 metres away from the trees, and to run a wire up the new mast from the level of the passing horizontal wire and to join these two at that point, with a loose loop to allow for movement during the frequent gales that we get here. Rather than just run a 4 metre wire up to the top, I wound 30 metres of wire over these 4 metres to form a helix. In the initial version I put the top section of a G whip at the very top, but this burnt out and fell off. Interestingly it was the fibre glass that burnt, it is black and perhaps the filler is carbon?? I found that these 4 metres are contributing about 60pF to the capacity, so more than 4 metres of straight wire (20pF) but less than 30 metres of wire (150pF). All figs approx. Results are a little unclear at the moment, Jim M0BMU measured my sigs at 10 uV/metre at 63 km. Many thanks Jim. That is exactly S8, and gives an EIRP of 13mW and an ERP of 8mW. Despite the changes the resistance at resonance is unchanged at 93 ohms and with 200 watts out, I calculated a Radiation Resistance of 6mOhm. However Dave G3YXM thought my sigs unchanged. The proof of the pudding is as they say in the eating, but it looks to me as though I have gained about 1 S point. When the weather gets a bit better and my back stops aching I plan to increase the amount of wire in the helix and reduce the straight bit below, maybe also to increase the diameter of the helix. Also thinking how to add some top loading, perhaps some very fine wire with little weight, but it might break too easily. I would be grateful for any reports so that I can assess the success or failure of this approach, but for a confined space this seems to be a useful arrangement. Apologies if this email is too long. 73, John, G4CNN, having fun. ___________________________________________________ GO.com Mail Get Your Free, Private E-mail at http://mail.go.com