Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10905 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2002 16:51:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2002 16:51:24 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 10662 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2002 16:51:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 15 Mar 2002 16:51:23 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16lwNW-0007Dy-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:24:34 +0000 Received: from mta3.snet.net ([204.60.203.69]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16lwNU-0007Dt-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 18:24:33 +0000 Received: from snet.net (nwhn-sh22-port79.snet.net [204.60.247.79]) by mta3.snet.net (8.12.1/8.12.1/SNET-smtp-1.1/D-1.1/O-1.1) with ESMTP id g2FGj0op000671 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:45:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3C9226F6.54590B73@snet.net> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 11:53:10 -0500 From: "Jay Rusgrove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: If you have downloaded PHD Radio... References: <3C90AC2B.898F7C6@usa.net> <3C91F52E.8EA7B843@snet.net> <3C921829.BABF01F@usa.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Alberto Thank you for getting back to me. I think the Argo "I know that this frequency is xxxx Hz, do your math" .... would be a good solution if you can implement it. A better solution would be using the spare audio channel to insert a reference signal, again, if you could implement it. There is no doubt that future leaps in software improvements will require locking your receiving setup to GPS, Loran or other source. The equipment to do this is becoming more reasonably priced - GPS boxes are available all the time now on ebay! The 10 MHz output (suitably divided down) or the 1 pps perhaps could be used for the reference. This would result in a completely locked system with both the receiver and sound card locked to the precision reference. If you do take a look at this, it would be nice to implement this in Argo, also. Assuming all this is possible... Thanks again for the great software! Jay Rusgrove, W1VD Alberto di Bene wrote: > Jay Rusgrove wrote: > > > Now to my question. What is used as the reference frequency for the BFO and can > > it be tweaked? I notice that with my GPS referenced receivers a known frequency > > output makes the phase meter rotate about 1 revolution every 4 seconds or so. > > Is there a way to tweak the frequency right on as in Argo? > > Jay and the group, > thanks for your nice words. > What is used as the reference frequency for the BFO ?? Guess what ? > The sampling frequency of the sound card.... which generally is derived from > a cheap quartz crystal... the BFO is implemented as a dual-output NCO, > producing quadrature signals for the half-complex mixers. The rate of updating > of the phase accumulator for the NCO is directly derived from the rate of > the callbacks from the MME subsystem of Windows, which in turn depends > on the hardware interrupts generated from the sound card. > So I cannot see any possibility to tweak it in hardware. > A software possibility could be to use the right channel of the Line In > (the mono input signal is on the left), to input a precise reference, > from which the software could somehow derive a correction factor... > > Or, as in Argo, you could tell to the program "I know that this frequency is > xxxx Hz, do your math" .... I have to think about this. > > Thanks for the feedback. > > 73 Alberto I2PHD