Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17905 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2002 18:46:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Mar 2002 18:46:57 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 8145 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2002 18:46:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Mar 2002 18:46:53 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16jQnu-0003KC-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 20:17:26 +0000 Received: from mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk ([194.201.52.152]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16jQnt-0003K7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 20:17:25 +0000 Received: from ldsas16-80-131-232.cw-visp.com ([212.137.131.232] helo=netscapeonline.co.uk) by mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 16jP5H-0002mN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 18:27:16 +0000 Message-ID: <3C890521.11CD9484@netscapeonline.co.uk> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 18:38:25 +0000 From: "gii3kev" Organization: Netscape Online member X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en-gb]C-CCK-MCD NetscapeOnline.co.uk (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb rsgb" Subject: LF: loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: I have now installed a loop each vert leg 50 ft approx x each horiz 105 ft =5250 sq ft Next stage is to resonate the loop. I have to decide where the feed point is going to be ie a bottom corner or a top corner or bottom middle or top middle, series or parallel feed. Series feed seems to be popular in the USA and a toroid matching transformer. I use 50 or 70 ohm coax so have to match accordingly for my rx/tx. So far connected up unresonated, it is poor as expected compared with my resonant vertical. A grounded quad loop is also a consideration, as an alternative to a closed loop with the bottom horiz leg about 6ft above ground. There is also some interaction with my vertical ground system, the loop is affected by the vertical ground radials but the vertical is not affected by the loop. This first observation puts some doubt on some previous tests on Decca sites with a small vertical in the vicinity of a large ground radial system, where the small vertical was supposed to radiate better than the main antenna. The loop is located about 50 ft away from the vertical and its associated ground radial system and because of the close proximity I might not be able to do a meaninful comparison test. I do not intend to dismantle the vertical because it works so well. I can work and hear all the activity on 136 khz, so apart from some fun I do not need another antenna. I will resonate it on 136 khz and even with the interaction see how received signals compare. 73 de MalG3KEV