Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16675 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2002 10:26:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by exhibition.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Mar 2002 10:26:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 9472 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2002 10:26:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Mar 2002 10:26:29 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16jIwT-0001pq-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 11:53:45 +0000 Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.193.210]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16jIwR-0001pl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 11:53:43 +0000 Received: from modem-47.atalante.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.129.175] helo=lvm) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 16jHPY-0004BB-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 10:15:41 +0000 Message-ID: <000201c1c68a$517827a0$af81883e@lvm> From: "LAWRENCE MAYHEAD" To: "rsgb lf group" Subject: LF: Re. Loops Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:15:47 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: I am very interested in the current Loop discussion, since I have been using Loops for reception for over two years.These are elongated, grounded loops 300/400 feet long and only 20 feet high .Since they are recieving loops thick wire is not necessesary, they are grounded at each end which means that a return wire is not required. This also discharges static and because of the ground penetration, probably increases the effective area of the loop.There does not seem to me to be any advantage in having an elevated bottom wire, the wavelength is so long that a few feet is negligable, so for tranmitting it would seem to be a good idea to have a bottom wire on, or in the ground.This would have the added advantage of making it possible to use a very thick or multiple thick wires for this part of the loop thus reducing the total loss resistance by almost 50%, with a consequent considerable increase in efficiency. I can also recomend a bow and arrow for launching wires over trees,although I hav'nt reached 150 feet! HI. 73a Laurie.