Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10735 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2002 17:29:00 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by exhibition.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2002 17:29:00 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 22597 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2002 17:28:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Feb 2002 17:28:51 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16fQLc-0002sj-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 18:59:40 +0000 Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16fQLb-0002se-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 18:59:39 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 16fOoi-0004N9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:21:36 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16fOoh-0001yY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:21:35 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020225164111.00a837c0@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:18:32 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" Subject: RE: LF: Spelling of units In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20020225161512.009ed5c0@POP3.freeler.nl> References: <20020225105439.1D8961E456@xprdmailfe.excite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear LF Group, A lot of the variations on symbols for units seem to be due to computers; for instance, most CAD and simulation software can't do Greek letters and is not case-sensitive. The Pspice simulator that I use at work a lot interprets a resistor of either 1m or 1M as 1 milliohm - you have to put 1meg if you want a 1 megohm resistor. Confusingly, while 4.7k gives what you would expect, it will interpret 4k7 as 4 kilohms, and ignore the 7. Fortunately, 'u' is not used in many units, so uF has fairly obvious meaning. Also, the word processor I use puts nasty red lines underneath 1 mA, but seems to approve of 1mA - perhaps it is American influence at work! I think the use of * to indicate multiplication stems from many types of computer languages which use this notation to avoid the ambiguity possible if 'x' or '.' were used instead in a text-only display. The standards bodies seem to have been determined that we should use the new logic symbols for a couple of decades now - engineers around the world seem equally determined not to use them! The resistor symbol is a bone of contention too, with many still preferring the zig-zag line over the rectangular box. Some old American books seem to use 'M' for ohms - so there are lots of 50,000M resistors marked on circuit diagrams, which looks a bit strange... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU