Return-Path: Received: (qmail 84 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2002 15:46:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2002 15:46:56 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: (qmail 19066 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2002 15:46:54 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Feb 2002 15:46:54 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16crLM-0005BJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 17:12:48 +0000 Received: from public1.thorcom.com ([212.172.148.10] ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16crLK-0005B7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 17:12:46 +0000 Received: from phobos.unica.co.uk ([208.239.240.147]) by public1.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16cna6-0002P1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:11:46 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by phobos.unica.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 16cnZM-0004D3-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 08:11:00 -0500 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 16cnYL-00056l-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:09:57 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16cnYK-00027F-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:09:56 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020218121805.00ab3410@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:06:59 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" Subject: Re: LF: M0BMU test transmission on sunday evening. In-reply-to: <97.233e366f.29a17f84@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear Markus, Wolf, LF Group, Thanks to all the stations listening to the PSK08 test last night, and for all the reports received. DF6NM and myself were able to have a QSO lasting about half an hour with a lot of info exchanged and almost perfect copy on both sides. I was quite impressed with this, since I could not really hear Markus' signal at all in the headphones under the QRM; maybe a more expert CW operator than myself could have heard something, but certainly not have been able to carry on the leisurely QSO that we had. Conditions were not ideal at my end with the local noise level, and I was using lower ERP than for the TA tests, with my antenna at a lower height. I think PSK08 could form a good basis for development of a specialised LF data mode; the bandwidth is suitably narrow, and it can clearly function with the kind of SNR we experience. At the same time, the speed of signalling is probably as fast as in a manual CW contact at moderate speeds, as is the norm on LF. The band conditions at my QTH were noisy, but with few QRN crashes - the static crashes seemed to be what caused the occasional corrupted character, so a developed version might attempt to improve on this - perhaps using some form of error correction; or a hardware or software noise blanker might be helpful. So congratulations are due to DL4YHF; SpecLab may be a "building site", but it is one with an ever increasing number of interesting features and capabilities, and well worth taking the time to investigate. Btw Wolf, I didn't know there was such a thing as a "squelch killing postamble tone", so my hardware may be ignoring it - what form does it take? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU