Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4760 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2002 12:40:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2002 12:40:27 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 2714 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2002 12:40:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2002 12:40:30 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16bL2V-00077I-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:31:03 +0000 Received: from e21.nc.us.ibm.com ([32.97.136.227]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16bL2T-00077D-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:31:02 +0000 Received: from southrelay01.raleigh.ibm.com (southrelay01.raleigh.ibm.com [9.37.3.208]) by e21.nc.us.ibm.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA124870 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 06:25:17 -0600 Received: from usa.net (ss3.bld.socks.ibm.com [9.14.4.68]) by southrelay01.raleigh.ibm.com (8.11.1m3/NCO/VER6.00) with ESMTP id g1ECU7m152112 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 07:30:08 -0500 Message-ID: <3C6BADA9.B0B8CF6D@usa.net> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 13:29:29 +0100 From: "Alberto di Bene" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: HELL Tests on 137.400 kHz References: <200202140546_MC3-F1F2-D9F6@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: "Holger 'Geri' Kinzel, DK8KW" wrote: >> I am preparing a Web page that will show a perfect copy of a Jason >> signal,, while that very same signal is practically undetectable with Argo. >... that is some interesting information, and I will definetely run more > tests in Jason soon to get a better feeling for it's capabilities. Well, it seems that I spoke too soon....... During the lunch interval I discovered that I have been baffled by the AC97 standard again.... What happened is that I started at the same time both Jason and Argo, while Winamp played a WAV file obtained by mixing a Jason signal with a measured amount of white noise (43 dB stronger than the Jason signal), using Cool Edit (TNX to Stewart Nelson for this tip). Jason did a perfect decoding having been set with a center frequency of 800 Hz. Argo did not show anything at this frequency. However I have just discovered, by chance, that the signal is visible on Argo around 825 Hz......... Jason samples at 11025 Hz, while Argo uses 5512. The AC97 driver of the sound chip on my laptop performs the downsampling needed to accommodate the requests by both programs at the same time. Apparently the correctness of this downsampling process leaves much to be desired.... a lesson for the future. So the bottom line is that, at least for the present test, what is decoded by Jason is also visible on Argo. Sorry for having misled you. But the tests will continue. 73 Alberto I2PHD