Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8060 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2002 03:39:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by exhibition.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2002 03:39:51 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 4793 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2002 03:39:42 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 14 Feb 2002 03:39:42 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16bCf6-0005z0-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 03:34:20 +0000 Received: from europa.your-site.com ([140.186.45.14]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16bCf5-0005yv-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2002 03:34:19 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.180.100]) by europa.your-site.com ; Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:33:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3C6B3000.E70FBDC3@att.net> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 03:33:20 +0000 From: "Dexter McIntyre, W4DEX" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Vertical grounded tower for LF antenna. References: <001a01c19a31$655db6c0$466152d5@it> <001901c1b3fc$a9ee9400$05e9fea9@g3aqc> <000f01c1b49a$fd9ef1a0$e36968d5@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: This thread is very interesting to me since I have a tower and hope one day to be able to use it for LF transmitting. The antenna that I used last year for the first TA receptions was my 160 meter dipole which is suspended from the tower at about 30 meters above ground. The top of the tower is a few meters above this point and there is a mast with H frame supporting VHF/UHF and microwave antennas. The feed point of the dipole is offset from the tower approximately 0.75 meter. The feed line is homebrew ladder line which maintains the 0.75 meter spacing from the tower down to near ground level. The ladder line is pulled tight so that few spacers and no additional standoff supports are required. The antenna works great for all HF bands when fed with a 4:1 air balun and a 4 meter section of 7/8" Heliax connecting the balun to a tuner in the shack. A few months ago I connected the tracking generator output of the HP SLM that I use for LF receiving to the 160 meter antenna. I removed the balun and tied the balanced line wire together then inserted a small pot core coil in series with the antenna. With another antenna connected to the SLM input I adjusted the tunable coil to resonant the antenna. The SLM was tuned to 135.922 KHz TA window from the previous evening receiving session. Not long after performing this adjustment I received an email with screen capture asking me if I knew what that signal was in the TA window. The time and frequency confirmed it was my signal. This reception report came from a station 543 KM away at mid day with the generator power of 0 dbm! I knew this arrangement worked fairly well for receive but to find it would radiate so well was a surprise. I thought most of the signal would be shunted to ground since the radiating wire was so close to the tower. Now my question to the few who have read this far. Can I expect this to be a good high power transmitting LF antenna with the addition of a good coil? All cables from the tower route down to about half a meter above ground where they run horizontal under the shack floor. I suspect these cables would be hot with RF unless they are choked off by some method. The tower has insulated guy wires but the base is well grounded. The top of the 160 meter antenna can been seen on my VHF or Microwave page at: http://www.gostanly.com/w4dex/ The top support is on the left side of tower just above the top guy wires. Dexter, W4DEX