Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18594 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2002 00:28:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 00:28:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 8253 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2002 00:28:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 10 Jan 2002 00:28:46 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16OT2a-0004EY-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:25:56 +0000 Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au ([203.26.10.16]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16OT2Y-0004ET-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 00:25:55 +0000 Received: from steve (ppp182.dyn154.pacific.net.au [210.23.154.182]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA15686 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:25:03 +1100 Message-ID: <02db01c1996e$1b107440$b69a17d2@steve> From: "Steve Olney" To: "RSGB LF Group" Subject: LF: Sad sight... Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:31:00 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: G'day Mal (alias BIG KEV), Although you have brought some humorous technical arguments to this reflector for the amusement of many, it is sad to chronicle the deterioration of such a leading light as yourself. By your own definitions you have deteriorated into a lazy CW operator, nodding off to sleep in QSOs, and have become a self-categorised Grade 3 operator (see pronouncements from your own good self below). By your own standards you have become a nuisance using slow CW at high powers (see below). By your own pronouncements you have engaged in the sordid activity of getting confirmations of a machine-generated mode from a digital receiving system using computer means on a video monitor (see below). I hope the deterioration has not reached a stage where you are incapable through some infirmity to acknowledge the hard work done by others to blaze a pioneering path (in the face of your harassment) which you now utilise for your own aggrandisement. That would be a sad spectacle. But I am sure that someone who is apparently BIGGER in almost every aspect is big enough to acknowledge that you are riding on the back's of the pioneers and hard workers which you so roundly chastised in the past. Then again I could be wrong - maybe the only thing big about you is the size of your antennas, your real-estate or the amount of watts you pump into the ether. I hope not. The world according to BIG KEV :- "To date all qrss activity that I have seen could be copied on normal aural cw at my qth. I suppose if one has a poor antenna, low power and a noisy qth then maybe qrss is the only way if you must work on 136 khz. Fortunately I do not have these problems. 73 de Mal/G3KEV" "Qrss is discouraging experimenters from improving their antennas, receivers and associated equipment to make a normal aural qso. It is also encouraging nodding off (sleeping) during the hours that it takes to get a MMM. OOO, OXO etc I hope the lazy mans cw will not prevail above 20 khz !!! 73 de Mal/G3KEV" "Is the computer generated qrss send/receive mode recognised for DXCC purposes, also where does xband qso's fit in. For those seeking glory there could be a disappointment. G3KEV" "so that I can hear you properly and not have to use LAZY MANS CW. 73 de G3KEV" "Suggested awards for those long haul qso's across the atlantic. Grade 1...... Grade 2..... Grade 3 Those using .... and a sophisticated computer generated mode like very slow cw,... Good Luck de G3KEV" "At present it seems to be the TAIL WAGGING THE DOG with the few trying to convince the rest of us that we should go to psk, lazy mans cw generated and displayed by a video monitor, or long long dashes on high power causing qrm to the rest of potential users of the band Critic/G3KEV" "Beacons and slow cw are a nuisence especally when using high power and going on for HOURS. G3KEV" "Considering the bandwith constraints on both 73 and 136 khz the most efficient method is normal CW whether it be qrs or normal speed where applicable. ... My suggestion as previously stated it to learn and operate conventional CW and know your appropriate Q codes and use QRS or normal speed as appropriate. 73 De G3KEV" "I tried some 60 sec dot qrs last night for a short time around 2330... The old system worked very well when everyone was on QRS side by side 73 and Happy New Year to all de Mal/G3KEV" "...or any advantage over QRS which takes the minimum bandwith of all the modes to achieve the object on a very narrow band. the only suitable mode for this band is CW, normal speed and QRS. G3KEV" "Thanks John for the confirmation that my signals were visible and readable last night. I will be on tonight at the same time 2300 - 0200 approx same qrg 135.922 khz and qrs 60 sec dots. de Mal/G3KEV" "Yes I would like the screen shots please. de Mal/G3KEV" 73s Steve Olney (VK2ZTO/AXSO - QF56IK : Lat -33 34 07, Long +150 44 40) ============================================= HomePage URL: http://www.zeta.org.au/~ollaneg Containing:- ULF, ELF, VLF & LF Experimentation MF 22m Experimentation InfraSonic Experimentation Laser Comms DX =============================================