Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21537 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2002 00:45:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jan 2002 00:45:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 18840 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2002 00:45:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Jan 2002 00:45:43 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16VMK0-000146-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 00:40:24 +0000 Received: from rhenium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.93] helo=rhenium) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16VMJz-000141-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 00:40:23 +0000 Received: from host62-7-45-104.btinternet.com ([62.7.45.104] helo=default) by rhenium with smtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 16VMJC-0004Ki-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 29 Jan 2002 00:39:34 +0000 Message-ID: <000e01c1a85d$74ff5540$682d073e@default> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Subject: LF: I.C.M or Luxembourg effect and Propagation Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 23:44:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi all, I have had some more recent discussions with Vaino, OH2LX, on the effect and have several maps of his observations, which centre mainly around a high power Polish LF station. Victim stations seem to be located with a bearing passing as far as 50kM from the offending station. Since BC stations radiate from vertical masts, I naively thought there would be no effect from a bearing straight throught the 'causing' station. This is not true, I guess due to the disturbance at an elevation of 60 degrees or so in front and behind. I often hear the 'signature tune' with the two 'gong' tones that Peter G3PLX mentioned. One more recent subjective observation (as a result of my propagation observations) is that the Ionospheric Cross Modulation (ICM) is always noticable (worse??) when there has been a geomagnetic storm (usually peak radio effects are 3 to 4 days after the storm), and significant disruption to LF propagation. I suppose this is reasonable as these events inject high levels of ions (electrons) into the D-Layer. So there is more material to 'work' with. There has not been a major storm for some time but for some reason there is a large reservoir of absorbing ions in the D-layer which does not seem to be decaying very rapidly. One good point is that these have led to good daytime conditions on 136 recently, though night-time conditions have not yielded their normal high signal levels. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com Unfortunately Vaino is not fit enough to join in with the discussion, but I am sure he is following it with interest.