Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12383 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2002 12:41:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 12:41:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 4811 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2002 12:41:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 7 Jan 2002 12:41:06 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16NZ1f-0003fp-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 12:37:15 +0000 Received: from mail11.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.193.23]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16NZ1c-0003fi-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 12:37:13 +0000 Received: from modem-233.eilenach.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.176.233] helo=g3aqc) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 16NZ0l-00030R-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 07 Jan 2002 12:36:20 +0000 Message-ID: <000501c19777$e9882280$05e9fea9@g3aqc> From: "Laurie Mayhead" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020107102830.00b0ecb0@gemini.herts.ac.uk> Subject: LF: Re: Re: GPS Coherent PSK Transmission Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 12:35:36 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: ----- Original Message ----- From: James Moritz Subject: LF: Re: GPS Coherent PSK Transmission > Dear Andy, LF Group, > > I copied the G4JNT PSK beacon last night; assuming I have the start > times/polarity correct the sequence was: > > 011 010 111 001 011 > > I found two methods of demodulating the signal using general-purpose > equipment - the first is simply to produce a spectrogram, using parameters > for 30s dots. The "key clicks" produced by the phase transitions are > visible as a spreading of the trace. Setting Spectrum Lab to produce 30s > time markers made it fairly easy to identify the sequence. I noticed a > period around 2250 when there were no phase transitions for several > minutes, but then the sequence returned to normal. > > The second method was to look at the phase directly - to do this I fed the > RX audio into one channel of a 'scope, and fed a stable audio frequency > equal to the BFO offset into the other channel. The frequency error of the > RX and locally generated tone was small enough so that the phase difference > between the two traces only changed a fraction of a cycle in several > minutes, so it was easy to see an abrupt phase change when it occurred. Due > to QRM/QRN, I found that to make the beacon signal clearly visible on the > scope, a very narrow bandwidth audio filter (<10Hz) was required; this was > also implemented using Spectrum Lab. Even then, the apparent phase of the > signal bounced around by some 10s of degrees due to noise, and noise spikes > could cause a temporary phase inversion, so a lot of concentration was > required to get the sequence. With a strong signal, the traces are quite > stable, so you could use this method to detect an abrupt phase change, or > measure frequency to millihertz resolution quite easily. > > Although good fun, neither of these methods is really viable for DX > reception, since they don't integrate the signal over the whole bit period, > let alone over several sequences - a bit like decoding QRSS by ear. Andy's > signal was about S3 at my QTH, but hard to actually hear due to a permanent > S6 carrier I get on about 136.65kHz, a real nuisance for manual CW > operation - does anyone else hear this? Yes Jim I have a permanent carrier (Loran line ?) on 136.647 by my measurment which I call the south coast mystery signal ! since people further inland dont seem to hear it. I once tried to DF it and belive it originates from E.France,but I could be wrong. It makes a good calibration marker since the freq. is very constant. 73s Laurie. > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > >