Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3952 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2001 14:29:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Dec 2001 14:29:35 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: (qmail 16884 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2001 14:29:36 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Dec 2001 14:29:36 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16GhdC-0004mu-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:23:38 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from bob.dera.gov.uk ([192.5.29.90]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16GhdA-0004mp-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:23:36 +0000 Received: by bob.dera.gov.uk; (8.8.8/1.3/10May95) id OAA20545; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:31:55 GMT Received: (qmail 17873 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2001 15:12:51 -0000 Received: from gauntlet.mail.dstl.gov.uk (192.168.9.10) by baton.dstl.gov.uk with SMTP; 19 Dec 2001 15:12:51 -0000 Received: by gauntlet.mail.dstl.gov.uk; id OAA20733; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:44:38 GMT Received: from unknown(172.17.128.171) by gauntlet.mail.dstl.gov.uk via smap (3.2) id xma020731; Wed, 19 Dec 01 14:44:27 GMT Received: from FRN-MAIL-R3.dstl.gov.uk (unverified) by mailguard.dstl.gov.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:28:04 +0000 Received: by frn-mail-r3.dstl.gov.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:22:38 -0000 Message-ID: <7D653C9C42F5D411A27C00508BF8803D55C66D@pdw-mail-r1.dstl.gov.uk> From: "Talbot Andrew" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: Re: long haul QSO's Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 14:22:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: But for every annoyance Gates and Co. introduce to operating systems, some other hardware manufacturer comes along with a new device to help. A new PIC device, the 16F628, has come along as a replacement for that old PIC workhorse, the 16F84. It is pin and functionaly compatible with the 16F84, has more memory and its greatest advantage, a built in UART. So now even simpler serial comms becomes possible in a PIC without tying up the code just polling or sending RS232 characters. The 16F628 is also cheaper than the 16F84 ! So let Windoze just drive the serial port as it seems to still be able to do (how long will that last ?) and use a PIC to turn the 8 bit words into useful functions. There is another PIC device, the 16C745 which has a USB core included, ready for when even the serial port becomes obsolete on PCs. The data sheet for this device is available from the Microchip website, but when I enquired of it about a year ago, the devices themselves did not seem to be available yet. Andy G4JNT >From Alberto ....... I don't have handy in this moment the API Reference, but I am afraid that the old trick used with the good, old DOS of using the status lines of the serial port as parallel output lines is not available when working with Windows. With Bill's baby, the only possible use of the serial port is that of, well, a "serial port" :-) , unless I stand corrected after having perused the APIs. If you need parallel output lines, then the printer port seems to be the only choice, unless you put an UART or a shift register connected to the serial port. I don't have enough info on the USB port to be able to comment on this latter. But, if you don't need to transmit more than one frequency at the same time, the 8 data bits of the parallel port allow for 256 tones, which should suffice. -- The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful.