Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18741 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2001 16:01:33 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Dec 2001 16:01:33 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 7573 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2001 16:01:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Dec 2001 16:01:23 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16GMbK-0001fp-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:56:18 +0000 Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16GMbI-0001fk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:56:17 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 16GMaZ-0000Fy-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:55:31 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16GMaY-00032h-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:55:30 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011218144613.00a88f00@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:55:28 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" Subject: Re: LF: Re: long haul QSO's In-reply-to: <3C1F2BA3.77F542DE@usa.net> References: <003301c186e8$dabdefe0$9fa1883e@g3aqc> <5.1.0.14.0.20011217162715.00abb350@gemini.herts.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: At 12:42 18/12/2001 +0100, you wrote: >Hello James and the group, > what you all think about the best method of generating multiple, > sequential >frequencies from an LF transmitter? It depends what your starting point is... There seems to be essentially 3 types of 136kHz TX exciter around: 1) Oscillator/Synthesiser/DDS etc generating output direct on 136kHz - in this case a simple hardware interface makes it easy to home-brew a suitable modulator. 2) Some people have linear transverter systems, eg. using an existing HF SSB rig with or without an external frequency conversion - in which case generating the multiple FSK tones at some convenient audio frequency using the sound card would be the simplest implementation. 3)Several people use the HF rig as an LF VFO by dividing the output frequency digitally from say 13.6MHz to 136k. In this case, the sound card could again be used; to get 0.1Hz spacing at LF, the spacing between tones fed into the mic input would then be increased to 10Hz. Personally, I would be biased towards 1 - since I don't have a synthesised HF transceiver, and am happy to build the necessary hardware, which experience shows will probably give the best possible performance with the minimum overall cost and complexity. The hardware interface gives the maximum flexibility to the radio equipment designer - if you wanted to make your own LF synthesiser, it would be easy to use, while trying to do something with some audio tones coming from a sound card would be difficult and messy. It also avoids all the headaches of trying to calibrate out frequency errors caused by sound card and HF rig, which has been such a hassle for many people with WOLF. However, I'm sure those who are happily using the HF rigs they already have as LF exciters will see it differently. I'm sure both methods would be used. >P.S. Which is more correct in English : "thanks for any >reply" or "thanks for >any replies" ?? The two forms seem to be both used... I'm not sure, but I think "replies" is better, since you would be hoping for more than one reply! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU P.S. While on this subject, can anybody suggest PSK31 software that has the phase keying signal as a hardware output? I'd quite like to try this with my TX in BPSK mode.