Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29689 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2001 17:34:14 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Dec 2001 17:34:14 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 24404 invoked from network); 2 Dec 2001 17:34:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 2 Dec 2001 17:34:38 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16AaRh-0002hb-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2001 17:30:29 +0000 Received: from mail-4.tiscalinet.it ([195.130.225.150] helo=mail.tiscalinet.it) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16AaRg-0002h9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 02 Dec 2001 17:30:28 +0000 Received: from ath650.tiscalinet.it (62.10.35.95) by mail.tiscalinet.it (5.5.053) id 3C04C1100026EF36 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 18:29:13 +0100 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20011202181829.01e0c8a0@pop.tiscalinet.it> X-Sender: spin.elec@pop.tiscalinet.it X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sun, 02 Dec 2001 18:29:03 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Marco Bruno IK1ODO" Subject: Re: LF: Austron 2000 Loran-C RX In-reply-to: <005001c17b48$b9010c80$e50c97d4@oemcomputer> References: <5.1.0.14.0.20011201140328.00a93468@gemini.herts.ac.uk> <003901c17aa2$79bffb40$8fce28c3@ericadodd> <000b01c17ac3$1ad89ee0$0300a8c0@charter.net> <000901c17ac9$d296d500$e1e086d4@ericadodd> <5.0.2.1.2.20011202115927.009efb60@mail.pncl.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: At 16.47 02/12/01, you wrote: >Walter, Marco, > >thanks for the information regarding the Austron 2000C. > >I did not get the manual but, although it is an early 70's design, >there was a test protocol from Austron taped onto the box and >it was dated 1990. When did they change the repetition rate? >Could it be a modified unit? I have yet to open it up and see >what's inside. I used the Lessay chain when they were in pre-operational status, probably in 1995. Then they started the odd-code GRR, and I lost it... it was, I think, 1996 or '97. So probably your unit WAS ok in 1990; ath that time the Northern See chain was a standard 3-digit GRR. >I already have a Brooks Shera style GPS standard, which I am >quite happy with, so I don't mind if this box turns out to be a true >piece of junk. It could be put to good use as a boat anchor (literally!) >for fishing in a nearby lake, or I could use the cabinet for some >new project, hihi... I understand, having paid it $10... there is nothing useful in the unit, except for a lot of switches and a ton of TTL. But it's a pity, seeing the unit in operation, quietly locked to the third rising edge of the Loran pulse, and seeing all the garbage on the channel, and the propagation changing from hour to hour... it was really fun, I kept it in operation for months, and was really disappointed when they changed the GRR. > >It's not an easy unit to operate... you need: > >- a stable reference oscillator, 1, 5 or 10 MHz > >- a stripchart recorder (or two, better) > >- an oscilloscope (if possible a storage one, I used a Tek 7633) > >- a Loran loop antenna (not E-field!!! it works, but the jitter is worse) > >- an old-style Loran chain (not NELS, HI) > >- time and patience to undestand operation... > >I have all of the above except an old-style Loran chain :-) Well, it should be very easy to produce an artificial Loran pulse, with all the coding and the phase reversals... you may think about using the output of the Shera box to clock the Loran simulator... ;-))) 73 - Marco