Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16456 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2001 17:40:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Dec 2001 17:40:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 29243 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2001 17:39:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Dec 2001 17:39:56 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16BfrX-0004Ep-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 17:29:39 +0000 Received: from sun4.scgroup.com ([192.55.122.7]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16BfrT-0004Ek-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 17:29:35 +0000 Received: from parissn2 (AMontsouris-101-1-3-195.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.252.108.195]) by sun4.scgroup.com (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA12336 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 09:28:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002f01c17db2$4c388df0$0400000a@parissn2> From: "Stewart Nelson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003601c17c07$4c58fc40$587e883e@g3aqc> <3.0.1.16.20011204101542.2bff5384@pb623250.kuleuven.be> Subject: LF: Re: Improving extreme weak signals Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 18:28:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi Rik and all, The current DFCW format is really a ternary signal. A space (interval of no signal) must be present between characters, because Morse is a variable length code. One must distinguish the presence or absence of a tone, and the amount of energy present at the other frequency does not help that distinction. For example, your call would be sent as "--- -. --... -.-- -.. " ; QSB at position: 2,9,10,11,15,16, or 20 results in valid Morse (and incorrect copy). Errors in other positions would be detected, because invalid codes result, but it would be quite hard to use that information to enhance a "for human decode" display. If the Tx were capable of transmitting three frequencies, and the third assigned to the space function, one could compare the energies in each of the three bands, and choose the strongest as the most likely sent. That would give most of your 3 dB advantage, and yet be compatible with current practice. However, if you have the ability to send multiple frequencies, a much larger gain is obtained by using a different frequency for each letter or digit. This gains at least 6 dB over the system above. If the tones were spaced 0.1 Hz apart, then your existing 4 Hz screen could show an alphabet of up to 40 symbols. The software could display corresponding letters and digits on a scale, but the operator would still be deciding which characters were sent. It would also work with existing software, by looking up the received frequency in a character table. This scheme has been described and tested by many hams, under names such as PUA43, Piccolo, AFK, and PGP-1. If the message length and start time are agreed upon in advance, then systems like PUA43 offer a huge advantage, because you know what part of the message is being sent at any time. If you get partial copy, you know which character(s) were received, and you fill in a piece of the puzzle. After several repeats, if all characters were received at least once, the puzzle is solved. Such a system would also permit advanced software to combine the received energy from multiple message repeats, forming a composite with better S/N. The variable length nature of Morse thwarts the above idea, but perhaps a similar code using say, four elements per character could be used. This code would always start with a "." or "-", but could have a space as the second, third or fourth element. Letters with 4 dots and/or dashes would be sent without any following space. Letters with 3, would have a space at the end. One or two dots would pad out shorter letters. There are 14 valid (per above rules) codes left over; these would be assigned to word space, digits, and 3 punctuation. For example if "- .-" were assigned to "7", then your call would be sent as "--- -. .- .--.---.. " which is two elements shorter than standard Morse, but the main idea here is not to be faster. It is that all characters take exactly 8 minutes to send; if you receive "-.--" 24 minutes after the start, you know that "Y" is the fourth character. One could also develop a code which is a compromise between Morse and PUA43. For example, if seven frequencies were used, one could use two tones, sent sequentially, to represent one character. That would be twice a fast as the above, more robust (no space), would fit in a 1 Hz bandwidth, and could easily be decoded by eye. Let me know if you think that any of these are promising. 73, Stewart KK7KA