Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1077 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2001 17:06:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2001 17:06:16 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 2480 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2001 17:06:37 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Nov 2001 17:06:37 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 169USJ-0002ec-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:54:35 +0000 Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.39]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 169USC-0002eV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:54:33 +0000 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id l.de.1e524252 (4240) for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:53:10 -0500 (EST) From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 11:53:09 EST Subject: Re: LF: HAARP & NASA & Hearing Meteors To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 120 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Andy wrote: >And is the energy contained in a larger meteor >flash enough to produce sound at 100km distance considering that the EM >field to sound conversion efficiency cannot be particularly high ? This is the essential question. Like Jim, I still have some concerns that the effect could be from "sensory crosstalk," although there have been recordings made of what are said to be sounds resulting from grass, pine needles, etc., responding to electric fields. Now, I don't doubt that people are hearing what they report. But I'd be more of a believer in the electrophonic explanation if I could find experimental confirmation that the purported VLF waves themselves are actually being generated. Jim wrote: >If such an effect were caused by VLF somehow being perceived, >or for other reasons, would you not notice similar sounds occurring when >there was lightning near by? There is some reason to believe the EMP from a nearby lightning flash is, in fact, perceived as sound by direct reception within the human nervous system. In most such cases, though, the click or chirp is swamped by the acoustic clicks, crackles and snaps taking place in the hearer's immediate vicinity. A pretty substantial field is required to do this; it isn't perceived at more than a few score meters from the strike, if I remember correctly. 73, John Davis