Return-Path: Received: (qmail 772 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2001 21:40:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Nov 2001 21:40:53 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 17798 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2001 21:41:08 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Nov 2001 21:41:08 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 165w57-0004kD-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:35:57 +0000 Received: from heavymetal.isc.de ([195.64.96.45] helo=mail1.isys.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 165w56-0004k8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 21:35:56 +0000 Received: from [195.64.97.48] (helo=k) by mail1.isys.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 165w4P-00064l-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:35:14 +0100 From: "Klaus von der Heide" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:40:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: re-long base line In-reply-to: <3BF948AB.A0596FFC@netscapeonline.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: G3KEV wrote: > You have heard of the proverbial sledge hammer to crack a nut, well this > suggestion is like using a JCB to crack the same nut, and for what > purpose. To exchange a few details like a callsign and report amongst a > handful of radio hams on LF. If we were discussing transportation of > large volumes of radio traffic around the world then the suggestion > might have some merit. > All that is needed is some expertise as a radio operator using hand > sent/received CW or computer aided like very slow CW already in use by > some. > One other simple approach might be a crude but effective method of > spaced diversity like using say 3 antennas, one vertical, one horizontal > and one loop and combine the inputs. Which ever antenna is producing the > max signal at that instant would produce the best output to the > receiver. > This method has been used on HF for years and is old hat but very > effective, combining > a horizontal antenna and a vertical antenna. Not a lot of space is > required even on LF if loaded > antennas are used, of course the more space the better. > G3KEV > > Amateur Radio has many aspects. If it only were to exchange a few details like a callsign and a report on LF, then nobody would use this reflector. There is no difference between LF-work, EME and meteor scatter or AO-40-operation: all need both, operator practice and technical knowledge and the fascination to get something work. If something has been used for years, it could die very fast. That happened this year in the meteor scatter area. Joe Taylor published his "WeakSignal by K1JT" program (WSJT) this year. My automatically written log on 144.370 MHz obtained with an omnidirectional antenna counted 24 heard DXCC countries on last sunday, all using FSK441. 73 de Klaus, DJ5HG