Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25785 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2001 17:43:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Nov 2001 17:43:52 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 23587 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2001 17:44:04 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Nov 2001 17:44:04 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 165s4w-0004BP-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:19:30 +0000 Received: from heavymetal.isc.de ([195.64.96.45] helo=mail1.isys.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 165s4u-0004BK-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 17:19:29 +0000 Received: from [195.64.107.9] (helo=k) by mail1.isys.net with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 165s4B-0007KS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:18:43 +0100 From: "Klaus von der Heide" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 18:23:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: Long-Baseline Phased Arrays on LF In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20011119112735.00a76080@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear all, nearly two years ago we had a discussion about Phased Arrays and Diversity on this reflector. Diversity is a method to choose the temporarily best signal from receivers that are many wavelength apart from each other. Especially when the antenna must be omnidirectional, this is advantageous. The 10 m relay in Hamburg is a well known example. Phased Arrays combine several antennas coherently. For an acceptable antenna pattern the distances of the individual antennas should be about a quarter of a wavelength (as in a Yagi). The combination can be done in several ways: 1. Direct combination of the antenna feeds as in Yagi-groups 2. Combination after preamplification 3. Combination after conversion The first way is not possible on LF because of the distances. The third way needs coherent oscillators at all wide spread receiver frontends or a sufficiently strong pilot signal in the LF band that could be used later to make all converted signals coherent. Since, in any way, the signals must be combined from distances of some hundred meters to a few kilometers the optimum choice are IR-links that can transmit the 136 kHz bands directly to a central station (way 2.). The combination at the central station can be done in two ways: a. Delaying the individual signals appropriately to realize one directional pattern, then adding them and receiving with a conventional receiver. b. Downconverting all signals in parallel using the same oscillator (which in this case is no problem), digitize the signals and implement delay patterns for all directions you want in parallel by a DSP. This is equivalent to a strongly directional antenna with high gain that simultaneously looks in many directions. 73 de Klaus, DJ5HG