Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10998 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2001 11:32:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Nov 2001 11:32:58 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 24242 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2001 11:32:55 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Nov 2001 11:32:55 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 15zFxq-00076A-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:24:50 +0000 Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 15zFxp-000765-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:24:49 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15zFx9-0002mw-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:24:07 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=mj9ar) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 15zFx7-0007gs-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:24:05 +0000 From: "James Moritz" Organization: University of Hertfordshire To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:27:32 +0000 Subject: LF: "Weak CW" on 136.000 X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Dear LF group, I too can hear this - it has always been there since I started on LF, and does sound like very weak CW, but is never readable. I can hear it at any time the noise level is fairly low, and it is normally always visible on spectrogram displays. I had a look at it last night using Spectrum Lab and Argo at their higher resolutions, and it is not actually CW at all - it consists of a dozen or so carriers irregularly distributed between about 135.998 and 136.001kHz. Some of these are rock steady, others were drifting up or down by a fraction of a hertz over the two hours I observed them. The different frequencies beating together gives the "CW" effect The spread in frequencies and the amount of drift would be consistent with an assortment of crystal oscillators on the same nominal frequency - perhaps it is a harmonic of some popular baud rate or similar? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU