Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23955 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2001 08:47:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Nov 2001 08:47:36 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: (qmail 912 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2001 08:47:44 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Nov 2001 08:47:44 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 164eWf-0003VM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:39:05 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from bob.dera.gov.uk ([192.5.29.90]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 164eWe-0003VH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:39:04 +0000 Received: by bob.dera.gov.uk; (8.8.8/1.3/10May95) id IAA15907; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:46:38 GMT Received: (qmail 32459 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2001 09:29:39 -0000 Received: from gauntlet.mail.dstl.gov.uk (192.168.9.10) by baton.dstl.gov.uk with SMTP; 16 Nov 2001 09:29:39 -0000 Received: by gauntlet.mail.dstl.gov.uk; id JAA16093; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:04:12 GMT Received: from unknown(172.17.128.171) by gauntlet.mail.dstl.gov.uk via smap (3.2) id xma016086; Fri, 16 Nov 01 09:03:45 GMT Received: from FRN-MAIL-R3.dstl.gov.uk (unverified) by mailguard.dstl.gov.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:41:59 +0000 Received: by frn-mail-r3.dstl.gov.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:37:49 -0000 Message-ID: <7D653C9C42F5D411A27C00508BF8803D55C628@PDW-MAIL-R1> From: "Talbot Andrew" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: [Tech] Electronic Goniometer? Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:37:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: For the weighting elements why not use a binary switched attenuator. At low frequencies, FET switches onto a tapped constant impedance resistor ladder will give you constant impedance and exact attenuation steps and will have good strong signal handling capability You can get the precise sin/cos values from a look up table. Use a processor (which could be as simple as a PIC) to make the look up from sin/cos data stored in EEPROM based on input from your interface - voltage from a potentiometer, rotary shaft encoder or whatever you like. Andy G4JNT > -----Original Message----- > From: Johan Bodin [mailto:sm6lkm.jbeab@swipnet.se] > Sent: 2001-11-15 21:39 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: [Tech] Electronic Goniometer? > > > Dear LF group > > Does anyone have an idea how to design an electronic goniometer? > > Imagine a "black box" that is fed with two signals from a > pair of orthogonal > (for example N/S and E/W) untuned loop antennas, let's call > them X and Y. > The output from the box should ideally be X * cos(A) + Y * > sin(A) where A > is a control signal which could be a simple DC voltage, a > digital control word > or whatever.. Such a "black box" could be very useful for > direction finding > without the need to rotate a loop physically. > > When combined with an omnidirectional antenna and a phasing > circuit, the > resulting cardioid pattern can also be used to null out > interference, just like > a K9AY antenna does, but better - with steerable, instead of > fixed, null > directions. My two loop / eight nulls (modified) K9AY is > doing a nice job > but I miss the ability to put the null in ANY direction... > > The "black box" could be a pair of attenuators with ability > to switch the phase > 180 deg's. In its simplest form it could be just two > potentiometers and two > switches (and phase reversal transformers). This would be OK > to manually > null out interference but to make accurate D.F. measurements, precise > sin/cos behaviour of the attenuators is required. > > > Any ideas? (besides making a "physical" goniometer) > > 73 de Johan SM6LKM > > > > -- The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful.