Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14505 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2001 15:02:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2001 15:02:42 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 26927 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2001 15:02:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 25 Nov 2001 15:02:48 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1680kq-0005fX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:59:36 +0000 Received: from host4.mail.vnet.net ([166.82.1.69] helo=host4.ctc.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 1680ko-0005fS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:59:35 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.229]) by host4.ctc.net (InterMail vK.4.03.04.01 201-232-130-101 license 75504bbd3e802bc4034a0097f57d493d) with ESMTP id <20011125145858.TMNR357.host4@att.net> for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 09:58:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3C01071D.34B4F3AC@att.net> Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 09:58:37 -0500 From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX" Organization: JDM Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RTTY on 73.3 kHz? References: <4f.14ca23c4.293040de@aol.com> <007401c174d6$fc38f8a0$a3ca28c3@ericadodd> <001501c174ec$f212b260$0300a8c0@charter.net> <000201c1751b$6063bb00$3dce28c3@ericadodd> <3C000DE3.AED73455@att.net> <3C0011CB.3156569C@att.net> <001d01c175b1$0b29bb30$0400000a@parissn2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: I lost all signal from the 73.3 kHz RTTY station by 0100 UT last evening. QRN was very high so the signal could have been just below my noise level. Relative signal strength logged are as follows: 2100 UT -52 dbm 2300 UT -48 dbm 0000 UT -47.5 dbm 0100 UT undetectable 0200 UT " 0300 UT " 0400 UT " Bob, K3DJC, in Pa. also was hearing the signal. I will be looking for the signal again. I don't recall hearing it before but when listening for G3AQC the receiver was in 20 Hz IF mode so I would not have heard the RTTY. 73, Dexter Stewart Nelson wrote: > > Dexter McIntyre W4DEX wrote: > > > Just for grins, I recorded a 15 sec .wav file of the 73.3 kHz RTTY > > signal and uploaded it at: > > > > www.qsl.net/w4dex/73khzRTTY.wav > > > It sounds strong enough I almost believe it would print here > > if the static crashes were absent. > > Many thanks, Dexter, for the great puzzle. Unfortunately, I failed > miserably trying to solve it. Although this is an FSK signal, > I don't think it is RTTY in the usual sense. Does anyone know the > format (or at least the source)? > > The apparent baud rate is 74.99; of course this is affected by the > sampling rate of Dexter's sound card. The frequency shift is also > very close to 75 Hz, but I don't believe that it's precisely one > carrier cycle per bit time, because attempts at coherent detection > were unsuccessful. However, even with a time-between-zero-crossings > detector, the S/N was quite good (with aggressive predetect filtering). > I considered a bit questionable when its frequency offset was less > than 40% of average; only one of 1142 bits failed this test. > So I'm confident that the data is nearly correct. Unfortunately, > I couldn't find any start or stop bits, any sign of a character > length, any repeating patterns, or any other indication that it > is anything but random. I suspect that this data is compressed, > encrypted, uses ECC, or perhaps all of the above. > > If you can make any sense of the message below, let us know. "X" > might be one or zero, "." is the opposite. > > ...X.XX.X.XX..XXX..X.XXX.X...XX..X...X..X...X.X..XX...X...X....X...XXX.. > X..XX.X..XXX.X.XXX.XXX.XX..XX.X.X.XXXXX.X.....XXXXX...X.....XXX..X.XXXXX > .XX.X.X.XXX...XXXXX..XX..XX..XXX..X.X.XX.X.X.XX......X..XXX..XX.XXXXX..X > ...XX.XXXX..XXXX.X..X.XXXX.X........X.X.XXXX?XXXX.XX.....XXX.XXX...X.... > XX.X.X......XX.X..XXX...XXXXX..X.XX.XX..XX....X...XXXXXX.XXXX...X..XXX.. > .X.X..X.XXXXX..XX.X...XXX....XX.X.XX.X....X.XX..X....XXXXXX.X.X...X..X.X > ....X.XXX..X.X...XX...X..XX.X..XX.X.......XXX.X..X.X.X.X.XX.....X..XX... > X.X..XX..X.XXX..XX.XXX.X...X....XX.X......X...X.XXX.X.XX..XXX..X.....XX. > .X..X.XXXXX...X.X.X.X.X..XXXXX...X.XX..X.....XXX.XX.XXX...XXXXX..XXX.XXX > ...X.X....XX..XXXX.XXXXXX.XX..X.XX.X...XXXXXXXXXXXX..X.......XXX.X.X..XX > XXX..XXX...XX.XXX.X..X......XXX.X....X.X.X.....X...XX.X..XX..X..X.X.X... > ..X....XXX.X......X..XX.X..X....X.XX.X...X.X.X...X.XXXX.X.X.X..XX...X..X > .X..X..XX.X.....XX.X.XX.XXXX......X.X.X..X..X....X..X..X.X..X..XX.XX..X. > XXXX...X...X.X.XXXX....X.X.XXXX.XX.XX...XX.XX......X.XXX.XX..X..X.....XX > X.X.XXX.X....XXXX.X.XXX..XXX.....X.X.XXX.XX...X..XXXXXXXX.X.X.X.XX.XX..X > XX..X..XX........XX..X.XX...XX.XXX....X.XX..X....X..XXX...XXXX > > 73, > > Stewart KK7KA