Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19357 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2001 20:53:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2001 20:53:20 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 19215 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2001 20:53:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 21 Nov 2001 20:53:28 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 166eIh-0002oQ-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:48:55 +0000 Received: from europa.your-site.com ([140.186.45.14]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 166eIc-0002oL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:48:54 +0000 Received: from att.net ([166.82.181.229]) by europa.your-site.com ; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:47:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3BFC1300.B9B3B91B@att.net> Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:48:00 -0500 From: "Dexter McIntyre W4DEX" Organization: JDM Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: RE: Measuring Q References: <7D653C9C42F5D411A27C00508BF8803D55C636@PDW-MAIL-R1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Can the -3db bandwidth measurement of the complete antenna system be used to determine the Q of the coil? Dexter Talbot Andrew wrote: > > If you use a larger capacitance resonance will naturally be at a lower > frequency so you will be measuring the Q there instead. Selectivity will be > higher, but when the bandwidth at the 3dB points is divided into the centre > frequency the Q will still come out at the right value, albeit at this new, > lower, freq. > > Incidently, when measuring low Qs you should use the geometric centre > frequency in this calculation rather than the mid point between the two 3dB > points. ie. Fc = SQRT(Fu * Fl) where Fl and Fu are the 3dB frequencies. > It won't make much difference when the Q is in the hundreds, but will be > noticable when used on small coils. > > Andy 'JNT > > > Is this the right way of going about it? If I use a larger > > capacitor across > > the coil won't this give a sharper selectivity and improved > > apparent Q? > > > > Regards, > > Peter, G3LDO > > > > e-mail > > > > Web