Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12260 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2001 21:21:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Nov 2001 21:21:56 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 4018 invoked from network); 5 Nov 2001 21:21:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Nov 2001 21:21:56 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 160r13-0002Ga-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 21:10:45 +0000 Received: from m11.boston.juno.com ([64.136.24.74]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 160r11-0002GV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 21:10:44 +0000 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"yokUgcxCbtTP7XLrpefewIS9VH/YcmYud6+cPPNhqverj8X2kqWUcw=="> Received: (from riese-k3djc@juno.com) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id GKHUKTZF; Mon, 05 Nov 2001 16:09:35 EST To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 16:07:37 -0500 Subject: Re: LF: Re: spectrum 136kHz I2PHD/dj8wx Message-ID: <20011105.160737.-484705.3.riese-k3djc@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 2.0.11 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-5,7-9,11,13-16,18-20,22-23 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "BOB RIESE" Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: see if there is any residual of 8 kHz harmonics. My lines are analogic, but in the central exchange they are, by sure, digitized at 8kHz rate... some digital buzz may leak out. The problem may be from Digital multi line systems. The trend is to unload phone lines and replace analog cxr systems with a system that operates at 56 K. This allows for 2 good voice grade lines on one cable pair. This is a better deal for the TELCOs than running additional cables .They recommend locally to keep these systems out of the same sheath as other digital systems. They can cause mutual interference. However there should be little leaking outside of the main multi cable. Make sure that you dont have anyone calling you when the phone line is connected to your computer as ring voltages can be as high at 140 volts AC I am on such a system and have no problems other than a limit of 26 K.. I net access Bob K3DJC