Return-Path: Received: (qmail 512 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2001 13:35:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Nov 2001 13:35:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 8795 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2001 13:35:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Nov 2001 13:35:24 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 161pGF-0003ur-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2001 13:30:27 +0000 Received: from tomts19.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.73] helo=tomts19-srv.bellnexxia.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 161pGD-0003uP-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2001 13:30:26 +0000 Received: from server1 ([216.209.110.5]) by tomts19-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with SMTP id <20011108132909.XGM10804.tomts19-srv.bellnexxia.net@server1> for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:29:09 -0500 Message-ID: <004701c16859$556ab880$0a00a8c0@ThreeLakes.ca> From: "Larry Kayser" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <7D653C9C42F5D411A27C00508BF8803D55C618@PDW-MAIL-R1> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Ringing Voltage on Telephone , boo-boo Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 08:28:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Gentlemen: > Same in the UK and > > I don't know how it is in Canada, but in the States, the 20Hz > > component is > > the only ringing voltage sent across the line to the > > telephone set, both these are wrong. Go and get a scope and have a look. The proper designation of ringing induction from CO to Callee (a telephone term differentiating Caller [the originator of a call] from the person receiving the call) is "20/1000" which is composed of a 20 cycle sine wave modulating a 1000 Hz tone. Remember as well the ringing induction can be from Tip to Ring (normal in North America), from Tip to Ground, from Ring to Ground, - I do remember that the standard in the UK is different than here. I did not speak to the pseudo ringing tone provided to the Caller. A quick reality check, think through the reactance of a DC blocking capacitor at 20 Hz and 1000 Hz, when you rectify the AC through the capacitor and power a small relay from the result you are not working with much of the 20 Hz component. Larry VA3LK