Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8310 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2001 16:09:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 16:09:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 23036 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2001 16:08:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Nov 2001 16:08:54 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 167Iel-0000I6-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:54:23 +0000 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.111]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 167Iei-0000Hz-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:54:20 +0000 Received: from [213.122.245.246] (helo=default) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 167Idz-000598-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 23 Nov 2001 15:53:36 +0000 Message-ID: <000901c17436$fabf94c0$f6f57ad5@default> From: "Alan Melia" To: "LF-Group" Subject: LF: 73kHz Propagation Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 14:17:05 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi all, I have not made any measurements on signals as low as 73kHz, but it looks from John's results on Laurie's signal, as though the effects of the big geomagnetic storm have not affected the lower frequency for as long as its effects at 136. The normal final stages of the storms's effects on long distance paths is first the show lots of very rapid fading (10 to 15 mins peak to trough) . Over the next nights the fading period then seems to lengthen. At 136kHz the normal pattern was often of two main peaks one about midnight and other often better peak occuring about 60 to 90mins before dawn in the UK. I have often seen a long dip between about 0200z and 0330z in the 137kHz path from CFH. It is a useful approximation to remember that the shadow at 100kms altitude (Bottom of E-layer) is about about 1000 to 1200 miles further west of the shadow at ground level. The signal decays as the sunlight ionises the region below, and the absorbtion produced wipes out the path to the 'first reflection' point of a 2-hop path (about 1/4 of the transatlantic path length). In some respects I am not surprised about the lack of other successes. I have found that conditions on 136kHz can vary quite markedly over just 20 to 30 miles, and there were at time quite considerable differences between the the signals I recorded, and Laurie captured on his chart recorder. I suppose it all depends on the happy conincidences of path-lengths and signal phases from different interfering 'rays'. Thus the three observations from John W1TAG, seem to follow a pattern. It goes to show you have great difficultly in predicting good nights, althouh to be fair to the ol' rabbit's paw I did say things should be improving. The longer wavelength at 73kHz possibly means it is not so badly affected by the multipath fading conditions as 136kHz. and paths recover quickly. These conditions could be an enhancement on 'normal flat conditions' as it is possible that there was some multipath operating in Laurie and John's favour. We have seen 6 to 10dB enhancement on 137kHz in similar conditions. It just goes to show....never mind the theory, get on and try it !! Dead flat, quiet, solar conditions may not be the best, it is seeming to suggest that the last gasp of a big geomagnetic event could just provide the boost we need. Well done all, keep the momentum up....we are still really just stumbling around in the dark. Cheers de Alan G3NYK alan.melia@btinternet.com.