Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6852 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2001 17:55:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 16 Oct 2001 17:55:50 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 17453 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2001 17:53:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 16 Oct 2001 17:53:26 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 15tXxf-0000Q2-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:25:03 +0100 Received: from mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk ([194.201.52.152]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 15tXxe-0000Pv-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:25:03 +0100 Received: from ldsas14-78-129-72.cw-visp.com ([212.137.129.72] helo=netscapeonline.co.uk) by mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 15tXo2-0002Yf-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:15:06 +0000 Message-ID: <3BCC5F3F.9E4A4031@netscapeonline.co.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:24:31 +0100 From: "gii3kev" Organization: Netscape Online member X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en-gb]C-CCK-MCD NetscapeOnline.co.uk (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb rsgb" Subject: LF: shambles Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Over the weekend acty was brisk. G3YXM was S9 plus 34.5 db but did not respond to several callers, obviously RX problems. MB2HFC was S9 plus 19 db but did not respond again to several callers and admits that he could only hear G3KEV and G3YXM ( his email) again RX problems, they say had it not been for the 2 metre repeater it would have been a wash out. So why all the QRO with incompatable receiving capabilities, this causes unnecessary qrm to other band users. G6RO was doing well with his 5w QRP but all credit must go to the distant receiving dx operators whose cw skills, dedication and expertise made the qso's possible. For QRP to be meaniful then both ends must be QRP compatible ie both ends of the qso must be QRP. What is the point of one end running a KW and the other 1 watt. One end is struggling and the other sitting back armchair copy. There should be a frequency set aside for qrp only and not mixing QRP/QRO. There were a number of instances over the weekend where EU dx stations were calling cq on top of G6RO not knowing he was there. These problems could easily be solved to the mutual benefit of all LF band users by using a little common sense. A QRP only frequency, and others with SUPER QRO to get their receivers compatable with their output power. No good having a poor antenna with lots of RF going out if you cannot hear what is coming in. In spite of the above handicaps I did manage a number of EU dx QSO'S especially OM2TW, OK1DTN,OH1TN,SM3UWS plus others. de G3KEV