Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26600 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2001 17:27:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 5 Oct 2001 17:27:27 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 29876 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2001 17:27:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 5 Oct 2001 17:27:08 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15pYgL-0002ua-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2001 18:22:41 +0100 Received: from mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk ([194.201.52.152]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15pYgK-0002uV-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2001 18:22:41 +0100 Received: from ldsas15-79-130-34.cw-visp.com ([212.137.130.34] helo=netscapeonline.co.uk) by mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 15pYWw-0001gz-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2001 17:12:58 +0000 Message-ID: <3BBDDE36.CCDC8148@netscapeonline.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2001 17:22:14 +0100 From: "gii3kev" Organization: Netscape Online member X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en-gb]C-CCK-MCD NetscapeOnline.co.uk (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: Big/small antennas References: <5.0.2.1.2.20011004082609.00a1f080@mail.pncl.co.uk> <3.0.1.16.20011005083533.2bef4faa@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Rik Strobbe wrote: > At 12:28 4/10/01 +0200, you wrote: > >Not necessarily. According to the currently valid regulation in OK land we > can legally emit up to allowed power for the op's class, in my case it is > 1kW. No note about limited ERP for 136 kHz band... This regulation was > already in force when I transmitted from the 150 m high T-ant. No abuse, > paradise for LFers. > >Someone else here also mentioned that they don't have limited ERP on 136 > kHz, I guess it was PA or ON land? > > > >73 Petr OK1FIG > > Hello Petr, > > As far as I got it the 1 Watt ERP limit is given by the CEPT/ERC > Recommendation 62-01 E (see http://www.ero.dk/carc/cer62-01e.htm ). > Apart from that several in several countries are giving additional (!) > power limits, eg : > Belgium : 2kW output (lifted in 04-2001) > Holland : 400W output > Finland : 100W output > Germany : 20W output (lifted ?) > So I assume that in any country that follows the CEPT 62-01 E there is the > 1 Watt ERP limit ? > In practice for most of us this 1 Watt limit is a rather theoretical > burden, unless you run many kW and use huge isolators. > Lifting the 1W limit would probabably get 2 or 3 very strong stations on > the band and spoil the fun for all the others. Crossing the pond with a > bute force of 100W ERP is no challenge, doing the same with far less than > 1W ERP must give a real satisfaction. > > 73, Rik Why are some persons getting so concerned about what happens in other countries besides their own. Does it matter whether one country is permitted 5kw and another 10mw. Some will be suggesting before long that there be a limit on antenna height. On all the other amateur bands, there is a big variation amongst countries as regards permitted power, so why single out the LF bands There will always be outstanding signals from those that put maximum effort into their system. There will also be enjoyment for those less enthusastic and content with qrp and bits of wire lying on the ground. It is called freedom of choice, so be content with what ever you are doing and do not interfere or dictate to others. I personally am not concerned if my neighbour has more power, a bigger house or car etc than myself. I would congratulate him on his success, and certainly not redicule or take a dislike to him because he was doing better than me. G3KEV