Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12550 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2001 17:22:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Oct 2001 17:22:51 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 12837 invoked from network); 26 Oct 2001 17:21:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Oct 2001 17:21:28 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 15xAVa-00075x-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:11:02 +0100 Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.18] helo=mailout04.sul.t-online.de) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 15xAVZ-00075s-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:11:01 +0100 Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 15xAUe-0002yO-00; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 19:10:04 +0200 Received: from (0482183881-0001@[62.157.50.34]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 15xAUM-0eLErQC; Fri, 26 Oct 2001 19:09:46 +0200 From: "jannsen" <0482183881-0001@t-online.de> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201c15d67$84efb080$7594153e@w8k3f0> Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Loading coils and shorted turns X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.34 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 19:09:46 +0200 Message-ID: <15xAUM-0eLErQC@fwd07.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0482183881-0001@t-dialin.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dick Rollema schrieb: > To All from PA0SE > > Dear OM, > > Of my loading coil about 1/5 is shortcircuited. Leaving it open makes no > difference in aerial current. > There could be some difference in coil losses of course but the effect of > this is diluted by the much larger earth resistance in series. Measuring Q, > as Rik did, could show a difference, if any. > > 73, Dick, PA0SE Hi All, the not used windings of the static part of the coil (400mm diameter, 48 windings of 1x75 litze(4mm diam.)) I too leave open (35 windings !). but reading here on the reflector that it could be wrong I made a test: I shortcircuited the unused. no change of the aerial current after retuning the variometer. BUT: I observed a strange behavior of the SWR meter connected between the 50m coax to the TRX and the coil. in the first 30msec or so at the start of any keying the TRX the needle of the meter vibrated like a friendly dogs tail. every dash and dot the same behavior. result: I threw the shortcircuit wire away. it landed on neighbors farmyard. regards Uwe/dj8wx