Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25595 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2001 18:38:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Oct 2001 18:38:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 26012 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2001 18:35:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Oct 2001 18:35:45 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 15ydft-0002X6-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:31:45 +0000 Received: from 210-86-15-138.ipnets.xtra.co.nz ([210.86.15.138] helo=mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 15ydfs-0002X1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:31:44 +0000 Received: from xtr743187 ([202.27.181.107]) by mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20011030182956.KQAO15911.mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz@xtr743187> for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:29:56 +1300 Message-ID: <002d01c16171$32226c40$6bb51bca@xtr743187> From: "Vernall" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: Subject: LF: Re: More on Antenna Loss Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 07:30:02 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Jim and LF readers, Thanks for further analysis and plotting of results. My LF antenna is not very big, and has shrunk in capacitance since I did those impedance runs. I decided to "borrow" the top of a wooden pole on the street frontage to support the outer limit of my top loading, but some time later I received a "Dear John" letter from the telecommunications company, and in short I removed my wires .... I do have quite a good earth mat of buried copper wire, with a near radial layout with respect to the feedpoint of the vertical, with 14 or 15 wires. I installed the earth system in the 1980's when I had interests in working DX on 80 and 160 metres, and I did get 59 SSB exchanges with Europe. I have since added driven pipes at selected outer ends of radial wires to assist LF currents to migrate beyond the boundary of my suburban property. So I attribute my "lower loss" to the earth system rather than the wires above ground. However, my ground is still in "power factor territory" compared to that assumed in broadcast antenna text books. My top loaded vertical currently has an 8 metre upwire, but I intend to add 5 metres or so with a fibreglass windsurfer mast. 73, Bob ZL2CA